Classic is classic; no more no less. Vanilla Classic moved to TBC Classic. TBC Classic will become Wrath Classic. Their seems to be a lot of confusion where as people think Classic is retail progression; it is not. Classic has had changes since day 1 and is following a more Old School MMORPG design philosophy compared to the modern MORPG lobby game design philosophy. I understand for many people new to Classic this may be upsetting as Classic is not a 1:1 recreation of the past. That said; Classic is an amazing experience if you are willing to play it. I have friends from back in ventillo days; I have a ton of friends and even a couple I met in NYC on Grobb cus of the old school design. You work together, make friends, and conquer obstacles together and this can breed amazing friendships in and out of game.
I hope all the new people coming for WOTLK understand this and we can all enjoy the second best expansion ever together <3
EDIT 1: For many of us OLD SCHOOL MMORPG gamers this is a last bastion for us. Their are little to no options for MMOs based on the original MMO design philosophy as most of them out nowadays copied the CATA design and are now lobby games.
EDIT 2: The amount of toxicity in the TBC forums over the past 2 weeks compared to all the other WoW forums is completely disturbing. A dungeon tool shouldn’t be enough to completely dismantle human decency. (I include myself in this and as a day 1 classic player will strive to bring betterment to the forums and actual debate rather than resorting to smart monkeys throwing poop)
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It’s only a good experience because it is still 95% the same game, but that doesn’t mean that every change made isn’t an utter failure. There were always going to be some compromises due to technical limitations and new technology, but intentionally making Classic an inauthentic experience is unacceptable.
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Well maybe you should of been complaining about this in 2019 and not now. We were begging for OG AV and they never gave it to us.
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I was here making the same point in 2019.
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You’re playing a retail progression server, not Classic WoW. Actual Classic WoW is currently in Phase 6.
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Kinda funny how classic era servers and SoM ended up dead but for some reason blizzard things that trying to shove design ideas from them into Wrath is a good idea.
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I see you are one of the people who are confused. These aren’t progression servers. Refer to original post.
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“This is our special sandbox and we have decided how it should be played. If you can’t respect our need to feel special than leave.”
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Kinda funny how you ignore the facts. SoM was way too early why would people start over just 2 years after starting over. Also Blizzard wanted to charge us for remaining on vanilla which backfired and ended up killing vanilla despite them emailing us asking if we wanted Classic+
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Kinda funny how you ignore the facts that people generally just didn’t like the changes they made to SoM. And obviously prefer TBC over vanilla.
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is that why TBC had half the playerbase at launch compared to vanilla? Interesting.
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And how many people are playing classic era now?
Interesting…
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I explained the facts about vanilla and you ignored them. TBC is classic now; just as WOTLK will be classic.
Ignoring conversation points and just blabbering nonsense is basically trolling. Good day sir.
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I just feel for people that wanted to try Wrath and not have to play on pirate servers to do so. This is blizzard they will make more changes no doubt about it and the people will never actually get to play wrath.
The facts are people vastly prefer TBC over vanilla, just like they did back in the day. The further facts are that the changes blizzard made for SoM were even less popular than just #nochanges vanilla.
But sure keep pretending trying to shove those ideas into wrath classic will somehow make them more popular.
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Their is very little changes is the problem. Even RDF which is the big talking point; wouldnt release til about a year from now. People are creating a faux outrage.
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If for you WOTLK is reduced to RDF alone, this is a very sad perspective of WOTLK (in my opinion). For me, WOTLK is about the lore, the zones, the dungeons, the raids, the professions, the new class abilities, etc etc, a lot of which we will get to experience again and I very much looking forward to it!
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Than why is there only 3 viable servers in TBC and half the players of vanilla? (Less than half after p1)
The data literally contradicts your statements. Im not trying to be rude, but have civil debate and we have the knowledge on playerbases. The vanilla population was waaaaay higher with waaaaay more active servers than the TBC population.
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Oh for sure RDF wouldn’t be out till ICC and that isn’t the only change. GL if you dont RMT/gdkp sorry people can lie all they want but the amount of gold in the game is absurd compared to OG wrath. Blessing decks were 10k in OG wrath at the start you won’t be able to touch a deck for that unless you are on a dead server.
Blizzard has hinted at buffing heroics to keep up later. If I wanted to do mythic+ I would go to retail.
Currently on beta tradeskills have no CDs, cannot queue for bgs except at BM. There plenty of changes or discussed changes that are not how it went. They may not matter to you but they do to others.
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