The demo spell "doom" is bad

a dot that deals dmg at end of the duration… that originally was supposed to summon a doomguard since its based off on the original one from warcraft 3.
this spell is a waste of space and a waste of talent resources on the talent tree.
give it a decent rework or just remove it blizzard

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Make it so the target dies at the end of the countdown. Like Final Fantasy!

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Vanish and Doom. Gets em’ every time.

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That was Ritual of Doom. Completely different spell.

I mean, OP was right but…effect is still different.

If Doom actually worked like WC3, it wouldn’t be so bad. No one ever takes it because that “Chance” on top of it needing to kill the target with its one tick as it ends is pathetic and pointless. Better off just summoning through Ritual of Doom than expecting Doom to give a chance to spawn a Doomguard.

It’s awesome in pet battles.

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nope… i was refering to the pit lord hero on warcraft 3, the ability doom that he holds
it does the following:
" Marks a target unit for the manifestation of a [Demon]. The afflicted unit will take 40 damage per second until it dies.
Upon its death, a great Demon will spawn from its corpse. Doom cannot be dispelled or canceled."

Honestly they should make it like the classic world boss ‘Doom’ where it does rather well dps ticks, then finishes off with a massive colossally high & madly insane damage at the end. :grin:

Also, this thread would be better suited being put into the class ‘Warlock’ forums, and not the ‘General Discussion’ :person_shrugging:

Indeed, it and demonic portal don’t need to be locked behind talents, they’re basic spells!

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i though of this, but i wanted a more popular reaction

Yeah, most generally do.
Sadly it’s because Blizzard don’t pay much merit of attention to the other forums, yet once in a while post upon the GD.

Honestly I’d like if they would at the very least take a peak and involve themselves more with other topics from class to lore and even Battle-pets. Help get a good scope of some of the more admirable ideas from the giant swarth of terrible ones upon the flood of threads.

At some point there was a chance for a doom guard to proc off of the doom spell. I forget exactly when.

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It used to summon a doomguard - but it would only do so if the damage from Doom actually got the killing blow (which it rarely ever did, especially in group content). It was a bad design for group content TBH.

Then it was changed to ticking damage with a chance to summon imps (either on crit or a 20% chance), but the overall spell was weaker than the alternatives and its damage (and the summoned imps damage) was weak.

Then it was made a little stronger, but the imps were removed.

Then the ticking was removed, the imps were removed, and the “Impending doom” version of the spell is back where it does its damage at the end of the spell, but now it is dispellable, and only lasts 20 seconds. Which brings it back to its “pointless” phase again.

Honestly, to me this always felt like an RP spell. Good in story, bad in practice.

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wasnt it supposed to kill you? horribly?

Demo was a masterpiece in 9.2. Idk why they changed anything tbh.

'https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Pit_Lord_(Warcraft_III)#Doom

Could never really get into demo after it was torn apart and remade into a pets spec.

Kind of wish some of the concepts of MoP would return. Not Metamorphosis because the demon hunters have claimed that permanently, but other spells were fun.

I remember that Doom with the crits making Imps spawn, in Throne of Thunder. Good times with that 100% crit proc trinket off the last boss.

I think I still have the bottled tears from the guild fire mage that cried himself to sleep every night muttering warlocks are over-powered!

Take doom away and replace it with Fel Flame again so we get a instant cast while running option

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They really need to give up on Doom as a talent , it was bad in Wod when it did increasing ticking damage over the duration & its worse now.

Get rid of doom , put the demonic tyrant in the middle of the tree replacing doom so we can have a decent capstone in that column.

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