The costs to respec azerite traits are ridiculous

Because most players will never reach it being a problem. Especially this late in the tier. World first? Sure, but even all of the guilds that killed jaina 2 weeks ago had like 5+reclears under their belt.

Another thing to point out that unless they break the ~3x multiplier for 15 IL on TR, you can fairly easily get about 2 pieces of heroic azerite the day the next season starts so even next tier wont be that bad.

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Not really, your arguments are half-truths. Here are some examples.

Totally dependant on RNG could easily take 10 runs for example.

It uses to cost nothing, and not everyone has 1 million in gold or has the time to farm that much gold every week. Well, enough gold that is to make 9k feel like pennies.

A better system used to be in place, your argument is disingenuous to say she or he is expecting free loot. That argument was not really presented. The argument presented was on traits, you’re the one making it about grinding gear. But I have to laugh when I see people arguing for the current system when the game has lost so many of its subscribers. To say you’re in the majority, well, maybe now that Wow has lost millions of subs, but people use to like the game a lot more before this garbage system was put in place. Also, to try and defend the system that is most often cited for BFA’s failure is more or less laughable.

Or you know, carry two sets?

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You’ve been given solutions to your problem that don’t require any change except your attitude. The system isn’t the problem.

You do realize that Essence swap just takes a tome or a rest area, right? And Azerite gear is still going to have a reforge cost in 8.2, right? It’s not going away whether you tantrum about it on the forums or not.

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Read Rikar’s last post please.

Sure, we probably know better by now and this won’t affect anyone with any sense of value tied to gold, and personally, the first three bosses drop my main’s bis azerite in the new raid…

But I’m against the principle of the whole thing. Sure, charge for a respec like the old days, but for one piece of armor, some people have to pay 10k(+)? I don’t care for that, it strikes me as predatory at worst, and overkill at best.

WoW is a continualy changing game. It can go away. Something good can be implemented.

There is no good reason as to what im suggesting is bad in any of the proper sense relevant to the player.

Azerite respec are still going to cost us, but its not going to be ridiculous as it can get currently.

Such hyperbolous garbage.

To get to 10k+ you need to pay the following:

5g
10g
20g
40g
80g
160g
320g
640g
1280g
2560g
5120g
10240g

You have to respec 12 times in one day to get that high. And that’s ignoring that the cost drops 50% every day. Get out of my face with your “it’s predatory!” melodrama.

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It can happen, and it shouldn’t, plain and clear.

If you dont get that, well that’s on you. The rest of us want to it to be better for everyone.

Fine lets go another route. Even IF the system is free I would not use it. I have exactly 1 piece of my 8 regularly used azerite pieces that I would flex between specs. Dps traits are far too dependent on throughput that me swapping to Demo and not using EP is a complete waste of my time. Or not having a single BI and SC. Same is said with Affliction and WB. You are better off not even switching specs to it if you can’t run the traits and unfortunately it is INCREDIBLY rare for pieces to be good for both specs. My only exception is my JFM Helmet which is good for all 3 specs.

That being said even IF I wanted to switch specs the better alternative is to farm different pieces in order to have similar throughput. The same story is told on my Hunter where ItR is so far ahead you have to run as many copies as possible.

Tanks and healers are generally exceptions to this since a MAJORITY of tank classes have mediocre to bad traits that it straight up does not matter what trait you pick. Hell healers generally take dps traits in m+.

Some people like playing more than one spec, but considering the flawless reasoning of your previous argument, it’s unsurprising that counting by threes is not in your skillset.

But thank you, that 13th respec gets to 20k. How much is the 14th? Why should it cost that much? Maybe someone likes playing multiple different specs and builds?

Okay, if you dont do it, fine, but you cannot neglect the people who do it in order to meet the demands of their group. That is just self centered to the highest degree.

Sure tank azerite traits are a bit underwhelming, for sure, but they help with the experience one way or the other. Same can be said about healers.

You’re argument is that we shouldnt care about those people, I disagree with that.

I still fail to see why a gold cap for respec is a bad thing.

Shocker, when you can’t debate substantive points you resort to ad hominem. Might as well hold up a sign that says, “I has no argument! You win!”

The cost is intended to be prohibitive. You’re not supposed to get that high unless you consider the costs trivial. If you don’t consider them trivial then don’t respec get alternative pieces for offspec.

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Am I doing it right?

I don’t like punching down, so I’ll just reply to others until you give me something good.

As I see it, either they replace the system or continue to keep their heads in the sand and lose subs. The game is not growing, it’s shrinking and quickly. Legions big issues people had was Legendaires and the whole Artifact power system including AK and the Neither light Crucible, both which had massive effects on the gearing system. What was the worst thing people use to complain about before Legion? Set piece balance between specs and classes? Seems insignificant to today’s problems.

Today they have pushed both the legendary gear effects and the entire artifact system and baked it right into our specs and gear, and they wonder why BFA is the most disliked xpac???

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Nah, if that was true then our classes would still be kinda fun.

They got rid of those and gave us even more boring abilities. Survival and fury are the only ones who benefitted.

Your salt makes my contribution worth it. Just so we’re clear, your idea is never going to happen, the solution is to carry multiple sets of Azerite gear around just like people used to for offspec roles in the past. This is not a new phenomenon. And people have suggested that solution to you. You just refuse to do the things you can do to stop from having ridiculous costs thus I’m obligated to laugh at the self inflicted pain.

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Whatever you say, have fun with island expeditions or whatever

Ok scrolled up and read it.

Let me alter my previous post.

Why not carry two sets with you?
Oh guess the words with you do not change the question.

If I were to ding a toon today I guarantee he would be Heroic raid ready within a week. Would I have the azerite pieces I wanted? Nope. Would I still hold my own? Yup

Have your guild chain run you through mythic plusses. Get your residuum on Tuesday buy a piece

My point I guess is, buy pieces off the vendor and carry two sets. I carry my primal gear and my cleave gear.

Based on the situation I change between the two. So why again are two sets so unreasonable when the gear is so plentiful?

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That’s only if you take Blizzards view of whats fun and how the game should be played as the right way to play. Yes, that is how it has been designed since Legion, but, that does not mean the masses liked or approved of their view of “fun”. I would argue that in fact the only people who liked it are a minor percentage of the ones still playing the game. Do you actually think people like the new systems?