If im going to want to do the optimum dps for the dk unholy spec, it would cost me nearly 4k of gold to respec my azerite gear. If my guild asks me if I could tank for them, it would cost me around 10k of gold to respec my azerite traits in order to be the best tank I could be.
I understand that there needs to be a certain cost to respec traits, but it should not get this ridiculous, especially when the amount of gold doubles each time. It gets to the point where I find people not wanting to switch specs or roles due to the fact that they cannot afford a respec anymore and this could be why some roles in ques are more deprived than others.
I have discussed this issue to my guild and the people that I have met while doing content, and most of them have told me that they have been in the same position where respecing is no longer affordable. This is where I made the conclusion that this system was taxing the player base a lot more than it needed.
For me a proper solution for this would be to implement a gold cap, a price that would still sting a bit, but not to the point where the amount of gold is outrageous and just not affordable.
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Would you rather have the Legion system of having to gain AP per spec?
Your other option is to carry other pieces specifically for your offspec like most of us do anyway for all of the other slots.
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I do think respecing Azerite should work just like the talent system. Back when talents cost massive amounts of gold to respec, finding someone to switch specs to run a dungeon/raid was next to impossible. Once they allowed talent switching in rest areas, plenty of people were willing to tank/heal as needed without much fuss for the good of the group. It stands to reason the same logic should be applied to Azerite traits, since they are essential to being viable within a given spec. The more players we have willing to switch specs to get things rolling â while being able to set loot priority for the gear they â the better. Shorter queues, everyone wins.
As a Druid, I will happily Tank, Heal, or DPS as needed.
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I would have the cost to respec azerite traits be non or very little. Paying thousands and thousands of gold to respec is just ridiculous and the fact that the price continues to doubles just makes it seem like blizz is against players wanting to experiment different azerite traits.
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They donât want people swapping constantly. And itâs a good incentive to get people to farm for more gear.
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Except it was free at first, then Blizzard added the stacking cost, then they added free, but only able to switch in a rest area or with a consumable.
Apparently, feeling the need to adapt to the situation on the fly is a bad thing and too complicated for the average player so they have to tax players to enforce healthier behavior or something.
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Why is it a bad thing to be swapping traits? We are allowed to swap talents without a problem, why are azerite traits any different?
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Poorly thought out, maybe, but honestly people that play more often and on a more serious level have multiple sets, its no different then farming gear in past expansions. Thatâs the premise of it.
The issue is the design of it and the RNG behind it.
So I understand your issue OP, just that its never their intention for people to change traits often via one piece of gear.
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Poorly thought out indeed, but why tax the few people who play multiple roles? All of it is anti-player.
And I also doubt that only a few players do it. My whole mythic team has complained about ridiculous costs and a good majority of peoole I talk to says theyâve been in the same crappy position.
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Removes the need to farm more gear sets. Otherwise you would be doing the things you like instead of âchoresâ (which might include old content). And it increases the number and duration of your play sessions thereby increasing their performance metrics MAU and the âsuccessâ of BFA systems.
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Because then thereâs little to no reason to get more pieces of gear if it was free. This way, itâs a gold sink and an incentive to get people to farm more gear.
To deter you from reforging often. Itâs really there if you do a mistake. Theyâve made it clear itâs designed so that you have to farm gear.
Itâs an intended tax.
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For sure they want you spending more time grinding, but it hurts the overall player experience. There are People out there that play multiple roles, and respecing an azerite trait is not because you made a âmistakeâ, its becuase of a change in demand for a role.
The whole system is anti-player and I wouldnt be suprised if itâs the reason why some roles are more deprived in ques than others.
For example, I would have happily tanked that mythic dungeon or heroic raid, but the cost of azerite respecs to do so deters me from doing so.
Could I find a second set of azerite gear?yes?
But if youâre already at a high item level, doing content in hopes to recieve the same quality gear can take forever. This is why playerâs like my gm, who is above iLVL 420 no longer plays dps due to the fact that he simply detests the azerite respecing system and rarely finds azerite gear worth putting on.
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I agree with OP here, the game should not be centered around one activity (endlessly chasing gear for every spec), besides we do that enough just gearing alts. There are also plenty of other things to do in-game to keep people playing. Burning players out endlessly running the same Mythic dungeons creates unhappy players who get bored and quit. The time I save not seeking 4 separate sets of gear for each spec can be used PvPing, achieving Pathfinder, battle pets, farming materials, crafting, tfarming ransmogs, helping guild members, Darkmoon Faire, special events⌠the list goes on and on.
If itâs Blizzard plan to keep us subscribed solely through chasing gear forever. Then itâs no wonder subscriber counts have been dwindling for years.
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Itâs not meant to be something you change on the fly. The Azerite reroll is only there in case you are asked to change your roll permanent, or buffs/nerfs change which traits are good for you.
Youâre meant to either have off set pieces, or build a nice mix of aoe and single target priority traits.
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No it isnât. Again, this isnât designed by you so you may think itâs made because of a change in demand for a role, but their reasoning is to give you a chance to fix a mistake through small costs.
Itâs not designed properly so you see the HoA 2.0 have no cost and can be changed in a rested area. They still want you grinding for gear so my assumption is itâs why theyâve kept the reforge costs as they are.
Farming gear isnât that recent, a lot of people had multiple sets in the past to change for PVP, certain bosses, certain affixes, etc⌠so this isnât anything that far off.
That issue for a lot of people is the RNG behind the good traits in gear rarely comes their way and that the residuum cost is kind of whacky.
I never liked this system to behind with but I can see why they did what they did⌠itâs a pretty formulaic MMO design. People just donât want to farm more gear and I get that also. Especially when the good traits are RNG and hard to come by.
So yeah itâs ââanti-playerââ but you are playing the system to how it was not intended to so you pay with a higher reforge cost. Does that justify, no, but itâs how they designed it so not a lot of leeway.
Why is it not meant to be switched when called for? I have heard no other argument as to why azerite traits cannot be treated like talents other than the fact that blizz wants you to spend your time farming for gear rather than progressing through the content to improve the gear you already have.
My favorite was when during the World First race for Mythic Jaina they had to have Gmâs reset the cost of reforging Azerite because it was over gold cap for some of the raiders.
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So if weâre unhappy with it, and if it hinders player experience, we should point it out.
These rising cost of azerite respecs pose a genuine problem to players who need to switch out in order to participate in content with their friends or guilds and make them have a negative experience.
I am not going to tank a high level mythic key if I dont have the azerite traits for it, I am not risking a bad run with my guildies.
Exactly⌠I donât like it myself but itâs like trying to use a refrigerator as a microwave⌠not the way it was designed unfortunately. ![:rofl:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/rofl.png?v=6" ":rofl:")