I decided to see how true this is. So I made my list. My final tally is there was 30 Horde ones(or as close to Horde representatives based purely on race), 38 were Alliance and I count 40 neutral(this is a more subjective one in that for example, even if Noggenfogger is a goblin, he shouldn’t count as Horde, similarly neither should Ravenholdt even if he is human)
So while the Alliance was favored, the Horde wasn’t too far behind ignoring the neutrals it would be a 55-45 split.
How many times must this be said, he is A leader, not the leader. If anything, it was eithe Thrall or Muln. And he gets to be a prominent leader in the same way Runetotem is a prominent druids, because the other faction needed a representative leader and he was always the Alliance shaman stand in.
The lodge was a joint effort between night elves and highmountain tauren.
There wasn’t any particularly night elven theme to it, aside from their hero worship of Illidan.
It was as many as it was in Vanilla. Which I am guessing they were trying to reference.
I must say a lot of the Horde characters on the list are either not Horde or become so only after Legion. Same goes for some Alliance ones I suppose.
Kayn, Meryl, Akazamzarak, Calia, Alonsus, Garona, Voss, Ritsynn, Jubeka, Shinfel.
Though the last three can atleast be argued to operate within the Horde even if they weren’t exactly established as anything but non patriotic cultists.
I want to highlight this portion. Yes, quite a few Horde characters are more after the fact, but so were some of the Alliance, and some on that list I am half incline to just put neutral but meh(like Natalie Seline is human, but she has never fought for the Alliance) in the grand scheme I think it was more balanced(or at least not as overwhelmingly Alliance) as some people claim.
I believe the argument is more that the class halls’ themes and aesthetics generally fed off factions and races of the Alliance, not that the Alliance tallied more followers at the mission table. The Sanctum of Light, the Hall of the Guardian, the Dreamgrove, Netherlight Temple; even hunters were consigned to a night elf lodge.
I always assumed most of people’s thematic complaints were more so about the Order Halls themselves, such as the night elf lodge, human tomb, human sewers, human tower, draenei temple
Ya I have an issue you listing a lot of them as horde. If this is based on race than sure it’s fine but it still means alliance has a lot more characters.
Alonsus was also not horde until bfa although even then its not really certain if he is or not.
Jubeka has never been shown as a member of the horde and neither has shinfel.
As Airetam said, I addressed this. Some of these champions aren’t exactly Alliance/Horde and a good chunk of them I did specify as Horde/Alliance more because of their race unless if they have specifically had major lore that stated otherwise.
And I listed people like Lulubelle Fizzlebang, Kanrethad Ebonlocke, Kira Iresoul, Zinnin Smythe as Alliance even though they have never really supported any particular Alliance endevors(honestly, the warlock order halls tends more to neutral in this particular case). So yeah, I kinda fudged the number, but to both sides favors.
I could do that, but then I would have to do the same for the Alliance it would be more of a wash honestly(as I mentioned if I did that for the warlock order hall then its only fair I do that for Alliance ones as well, it would be alot more Alliance listed characters going neutral more so then the Horde)
edit: Then let me put the following in the “neutral” list based on a stricter definition of in order for someone to be considered Alliance/Horde they would have had to have helped either faction during/before Legion. My final count would be, 15 Horde, 19 Alliance and 74 neutral. With the following added to the neutral pile.
Minerva Ravensorrow
Kayn Sunfury
Belath dawnblade
Loren Stormhoof
Nighthuntress Syrenne
Esara Verrinde
Meryl Felstorm
The Great Akazamzarak
Hiro
Calia Menethil
Alonsus Faol
Garona Halforcen
Ritssyn Flamescowl
Jubeka Shadowbreaker
Shinfel Blightsworn
Asha Ravensong
Altruis the sufferer
Kor’vas Bloodthorn
Naralex
Akama(only joins the draenei in DF)
Sylendra Gladesong
Addie Fizzlebog
Hemet Nesingwary
Archmage Vargoth
Angus Ironfist
Sylara Steelsong
Lord Maxwell Tyrosus
Nerus Moonfang
Natalie Seline
Vanessa VanCleef
Zinnin Smythe
Kira Iresoul
Kanrethad Ebonlocke
Lulubelle Fizzlebang
And the data would still remain the same. Yes, the Alliance would have a slight edge but not overwhelming. Which is the same with the looser Alliance/Horde dicotomy.
You are being dishonest again. The major themes of all orders are heavily tied to the alliance that is a fact. The only one that shows out is the shamans. Apart from that Legion was using the leaders of all alliance races to a certain degree.