The case for classic wrath and new character models

Hello - I’d like to plead the case for new character models in Wrath classic. I’ve asked a lot of folks in pug raids their thoughts and have yet to receive a “no way, gross!” response (though I admit that’s a small sample, I’m not pushing the bandwagon fallacy here). But it did make me think.

The character model revamp offered a lot of emotive features to the models that give your character more uh… well… character? I really like them and thought the art team did a fantastic job at making them expressive; the cast animations for fire mage or other jobs are really cool. I do see some valid points arguing against it so I’d like to posit a counter argument to a few of those cases off the top of my head:

  1. They look out of place in classic, with different resolution and fidelity.

Response: I see tons of people in retail WoW wearing classic, older armor sets, and they still look cool. My mage in retail rocks ulduar mage set, and my paladin rocks the Sunwell set. Both look great, even with the higher fidelity character models. I understand characters in some cutscenes won’t quite match the fidelity of player models, though to be honest I don’t know how much that matters to players in general. I think the reason they look fine is that most people play zoomed out some, so it ends up looking cohesive enough.

  1. It takes the “classic” out of classic WoW / I liked the older models

Response: Make it something you can enable or disable as a matter of preference. Is it so inordinate to do so? Any more inordinate than, say, porting an entire older version of wow to run on modern computers as classic does? Anyways, Everquest, when it introduced new character models, allowed you for a time to enable or disable them.

I understand that might mentally detract from the game given the idea that others won’t necessarily see your character as YOU see it or vise versa, but given how most people don’t play first-person and are generally zoomed out, how much will you REALLY notice? Seems more like a personal or mental reservation or choice. People play on different graphics settings so generally people may not see the world or your character as you see it, anyways.

One other thing to consider: What if Wrath is your “last stop”. That is, either they don’t push “Cata classic” (which doesn’t sound all that um…classic) or you choose not to migrate forward to Cata classic. If Wrath is your indefinite stop, why not add some fun to it by introducing more emotive, expressive, and interesting character models and animations to it or, at the very least, the option to enable them or disable them as you see fit? I think it offers a new dynamic to something that may very well be here to stay, as vanilla WoW classic is.

Anyways, thanks for reading. I look forward to some constructive feedback or if you have some conversation to add to this.

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If you want WoD models why not just play that pserver?

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Because I like Wrath, not WoD, but I DO like the character model updates WoD brought with it.

Yes and that exists already.

WoD models and high rez texture pack is missed for sure. Was on waremane and ran the player packs and high rez environment packs… looked awesome

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I would like the new models as well.

no thanks the new models look terrible

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They did female draenei dirty after new models. I cannot ever play one again.

I mean personally, I find the new models to be pretty off-putting. I actually liked Tauren and Undead (and trolls) before the new models. I can’t play any of those races in Retail now, because I absolutely hate the direction they’ve gone with them.

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God no. Why are you guys so confused? This is Classic.

Classic models are much more appealing imho

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No. The old character models are way way better and for some reason look with better graphics.

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The updated character models are absolutely hideous.

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If theyre gonna go with updated models, I would say give us shadowlands customization, but not the terrible wod era models. The human freckle face looked so gross between wod and shadowlands, but there was a good one added back in shadowlands

I still don’t understand why people think the old 8 polygon models are better than the newer ones.

The old ones look like potatoes with small little color additions to attempt to make some sort of details.

They look awful. Was never happier than when I saw the updated Tauren models.

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The new models somehow have liked 4 polygons they look worse than the original WTF are you talking about? Are you on drugs???

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No in the slightest.

Your actively lying though. :woman_shrugging:

Anyone with eyes can see the new character models have significantly more detail than the original ones ever did.

It’s a complete night and day difference.

Just because for some reason you enjoy extremely low poly and low quality models doesn’t mean it’s okay to blatantly lie about the new models.

Just makes you look ridiculous.

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No one that dislikes the new models - shadowlands or wod or whatever (I didn’t play shadowlands so I don’t know the difference) - mentioned how they’d feel about an option to disable or enable them.

For those that dislike the new models, how would an option to enable/disable them go over with you?

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Nope you’re actually trolling.the new ones have way way less detail than the old ones. Somehow blizzard managed to make the models worse with also worse casting animations. Anyone can see that the original models are better designed and have more detail

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This is easily the most basic example of projection.

You can like the older models, but to say someone is trolling because the updated models are updated is just a troll statement.

The old models look bad. They were mid in 2005 and they aged poorly. The only saving grace for them is the rest of the world did as well, so they don’t look too out of place.

lolno, you can continue to lie to yourself all you want though. Have fun.