No its not, you keep trying to insert headcanon when the canon is clear and defined and always has been
Again, thatâs the lore, it is just loss of faith. I keep saying, speculation doesnât override that.
Yes, faith is involved. But we are also told from objective sources that the Light is a benevolent entity (pre-legion). It is not speculation when all sources are straight from lore.
The only other explanation is that Wow lore has contradicted itself with the characterization of the Light and we disregard Chronicles.
The light is a force, itâs only as benevolent as the wielder, also no one here disregards chronicles, you donât get to pick and choose which lore counts or not based on what you like only blizzard does that
The Light isnât a force this is straight from Chronicles " Before life began, before even the cosmos took shape, there was Light⌠and there was Void. Unfettered by the confines of time and space, the Light swelled across all existence in the form of a boundless prismatic sea. Great torrents of living energy flitted through its mirrored depths, their movements conjuring a symphony of joy and hope".
Light is capitalized like a proper noun, it consists of living energy, and it spreads hope and joy. The Light is sentient. And pre-Shadowlands, Chronicles was the official canon.
and the light, only requires faith to use, none of that has been contradicted, it doesnât need you to be compassionate, it doesnât need you to be kind, it only needs faith in your cause and/or god
Then it was what I said earlier Blizzard has contradicted themselves.
Because if we follow that logic. The Light is sentient, benevolent, and compassionate. Yet, anyone with enough faith can wield it to commit horrible deeds without repercussion.
How do you reconcile both viewpoints? Does the Light extoll free will above all? There needs to be some explanation bridging the two. Thatâs why I look to other sources of lore to build a larger picture.
I really donât think there does, Perhaps the light reserves its compassion, perhaps its only benevolent to some, or perhaps it simply gives its power to whoever has the largest amount of faith and its benevolence is assumed by the wielders.
And weâre directly told using the Light is just willpower or faith.
That still brings it into conflict with Chronicles though. At the time Chronicles was an objective source. So when it mentions the Light being benevolent, I donât think it means in a selective context.
And we are also told by other sources that the Light is compassionate. It is about putting all of the lore together in context.
Look mate, i get you really like the light and want it to be all nice and friendly, but the game has shown itâs not always friendly the writing has shown us that, Word of god has told us how it works and nothing is changing that
Wasnât Chronicles called the âWarcraft Bibleâ? It is just as much Word of God as anything else said.
You see there is some degree of contradiction. Itâs not about discounting lore, but piecing it all together.
The Scarlets arenât the only villains wielding the Light.
Cataclysm had the Twilight Cult with full blown paladins of evil camped out and fighting the Night Elves to reach Nordrassil for Ragnaros. You can still go and fight them today if you want, they use the Paladin powerset, itâs not even changed to be purple in color or anything.
Still follows the same line of reasoning though. They are in service of a darker power and will eventually succumb to it.
I will look them up if you have the npc names though.
I mean again straight up your assumption that they fall,
The Light being compassionate doesnât do anything to change using it just being willpower and faith. Your âputting it togetherâ is âtrying to counter what weâre directly toldâ. It isnât actually putting things together but trying to ignore one source without something that doesnât work.
Here you are.
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That is often the end result of the Twilight Cultists though. They go mad or get corrupted. I donât think itâs a stretch.
But if you donât put them together or provide an explanation, it is a huge contradiction. It just stands that the Light is inconsistently portrayed. The Light canât simultaneously be an amoral force of energy and a sentient being of compassion.
Thank you. Ill check it out
It isnât contradictory, though. It can be both a force of energy and a sentient being of compassion. The being itself can do things while energy it is comprised of can be taken and used.
Though it being âsentientâ is less of a clear thing the outright description of how it is used.
Sorry, I had mixed your point with Giruâs saying that the light does no more thinking than electricity in a house.
Even then, I would still think a deeper explanation is needed. A reasoning why both can exist.
Faith, in this context, implies someone/something is acknowledging your belief. I find it hard to believe that the entity can do what it pleases but has no input on who it allows to take its power if that power is based on faith. The entity also must be sentient to some extent in this case.
Willpower is a little bit different than faith though. It would make more sense that it isnât faith in the Light, but a desire to manifest something given that the Light is a force of creation. They are willing something into existence essentially. That would make more sense with your reasoning.
The closest example of that is the BC Blood Knights and that practice didnât last long. Mâuru willingly let it happen because it would lead to Elvesâ redemption in the future. So even then it is hard to parse everything out. It does connect back to my point on the Scarlets, that there seems to be a larger reasoning for initially allowing the Light to be âmisusedâ (Not that the average blood knight was as bad as a Scarlet).
I cant find too much on them. Even the quest they are associated with doesnât have much information. But given the way they are dressed; Iâd imagine they are more Void-aligned than Light. They have a âdark paladinâ vibe with the purple judgment recolor and their weapon does have a purple hue.
With those things in mind, I think the spells are just reused assets for simplicityâs sake. I am not saying that is the case in every scenario though.