I guess you didn’t read the novellas?
I’d welcome Anduins death, he is a horrible leader and will lead the alliance into the grave.
As for Jaina, I don’t really mind her that much. I find it worse when thousands of innocents die than when 1 iconic character dies, that’s why I would also rather had Malfurion die in Darkshore than having the civilians burn.
Also, those civilians didn’t contribute anything to the war. Killing them is just pure hatred while killing Anduin or Jaina would actually benefit the horde.
So are you saying night elf warriors didn’t live in Teldrassil…? Or that they aren’t real or something?
They were all defeated already in Darkshore. In the Warbringer, Delaryn even told Sylvanas that only innocents remained in the tree and that she had already won.
Him triggering you doesn’t make him a troll.
Uh yes writing false things over and over to trigger people is actually seen as trolling.
Besides that he didn’t trigger me, I just corrected the false things he said.
I just reread his posts. I’m truly curious what you consider trolling? I see him disagreeing, and you getting upset about it.
It is not about him disagreeing. If he disagrees with Blizzards official statements then sure, but he said that the War of Thorns wasn’t genocide even though blizzard clearly stated it was, and after I told him he still ignored the fact and kept arguing - then I just stopped reading his posts.
Yeah I was just hanging around undercity last night…oh wait no I wasn’t.
While it is heartbreaking to see the loss of leaders and major characters, that’s the consequence of having the story be about the Horde. Protagonists see change in their stories. The World of Warcraft’s story has been the story of the Horde, for better or worse. That’s the thing that rubs many Alliance players so wrong. We’d gladly accept loss if the Alliance could drive the story once and awhile.
Over fifteen years, the main story arc of the franchise has been one single theme: will the Horde pursue peaceful coexistence (Thrall) or one of conquest and domination (Garrosh and Sylvanas)? There is no corresponding theme for the Alliance. Instead, they constantly act as the reactionary foil to the Horde’s actions and events that happen to the Horde as a consequence.
Expansions follow the same pattern of action, reaction to no satisfactory end. The Alliance is attacked and loses a city or settlement due to Horde actions, the Alliance counterattacks but is not allowed through story restrictions to gain an outright victory and the status quo returns. And the cycle repeats with no seeming justice for the Alliance because in the end, you cannot have one faction defeat the other in a two-faction game.
The worst part is it makes the expansion stories boring and predictable. We all sensed what was going to happen the minute we saw Sylvanas standing on the shoreline in front of Teldrassil. Because we’ve seen it before. And Alliance players knew they’d be helpless throughout the expansion and they knew there’d be no justice for what had occurred or what was to come. Imagine how different the expansion would have been (and actually morally grey) if the Alliance had struck first at Lordaeron after the events of Legion. That Greymane and exiled Lordaeron nobles had convinced Anduin to retake Lordaeron, forcing Horde leaders for once to think “what do we do now?” Not to mention, what excellent cover that would have been for Sylvanas to weave her plans.
Oh believe me. I remember when we were told to wait and see regarding Teldrassil.
I’m normally a fairly calm, level headed individual. I try to be balanced and unbiased with things in the game. I really don’t like pointing fingers because there’s no good that comes out of insulting anyone.
When we saw Sylvanas burn the tree, predictably as ever, I. Was. Furious. Genuinely furious after being led along by promises of a twist, of being told “wait and see.” The story played out exactly as people predicted and I saw red. I’m not proud of being that angry at a video game, but I’ve been heavily invested in this world for more than half of my life. I’m 25 now and for 15 years between Warcraft III and World of Warcraft, I’ve been in the world of Azeroth nearly as much as I’ve been in real life. More so, in my younger years. So to have something like that happen enraged me.
I feel for the Alliance, I really do. But I’m equally as envious because none of our characters have survived long enough to even have interesting arcs. Now, we do have new characters that I hope we get to keep long enough to see stories develop. But I miss the old guard, the ones that made me want to join the Horde in the first place. I miss my favorite character, my second favorite character, and I miss when my third favorite character wasn’t a lowly farmer on a dying planet.
Sorry, I do get emotionally frustrated at these stories because I’ve been so invested. I’m just so tired of everything that the Horde goes through because it’s the same freaking story. So I say it with genuine sincerity: I hope the Alliance get the focus going forward. Because the Horde really needs to recover, but the Alliance also need time in the spot light for their own character growth. I just hope you get that growth, and not just constant deaths.