I never said they were good, but they are justifiable.
In the World of Warcraft Video game, the Cycle of Hatred rolls on. That is the fictional story these forums discuss.
On Earth, where there are few species capable of speech, and few of those can inter breed, and almost every nation is a Human,… real life is just a tad different.
Again. Venue matters. As well as events.
So much so, that we can discuss the High King and Warchief being killed ad nauseam. Yet, I am loathe to actually discuss IRL leaders being harmed and what that could lead to. The Secret Service had to give up it’s “extracurricular activities” and has more time on its hands.
But they are not… It doesn’t matter what the “venue” is… You cannot say burning and gassing children to death is justifiable here, and say it is not elsewhere. It is either you are a horrible person who advocates baby murder, or you are being grossly dishonest with yourself.
Which brings me to my point that Horde posters suspend their morals to justify their favorite character or faction.
You could frame your point as within the universe itself where our human morals are irrelevant.
Multiple races on WoW have shown they are capable of communicating and interbreeding.
So its not that different.
I on a toilet but not on my bed. That hardly makes me a hypocrite. Venue matters.
I have done many things in video games that I would not advocate IRL. Perhaps that is foreign to some… I can’t guess.
And I would agree with Sylvanas if I were in Azeroth and in the World of Warcraft - but I don’t agree that Humans need to be turned into a zombie army IRL…
I dont want to get even further from the topic. Suffice it to say, I do defend and justify Sylvanas’s treatment of her fatal enemies as Warchief. I view the World of Warcraft as such.
If people think that means anything IRL, I find it hilarious. I have no problem with it. If posters want to extrapolate some IRL views from my video game views, have at it. Its funny.
We may disagree. I don’t think these folks who cry Genocide after their Alliance tried to assassinate the Horde Warchief have any standing.
I certainly do not believe their phoney outrage about pixels means anything IRL. I don’t care about their IRL views. I am discussing this story. There are other… venues… for RL discussion.
But I do not pretend every crocodile tear shed here equates to real life compassion.
More on topic… I have felt that seems to be a “trope” of sorts. An “unproportionality” as you say.
The Alliance loses tons and tons of unnamed people in tragedies, and loses whole cities.
The Horde loses its major characters.
The Alliance targets Thrall in Cata and Sylvanas in Legion - and fails to kill them.
The Horde destroys Theramore and Teldrassil.
It seems like a pattern. The Alliance takes head shots, striking at people who are Horde targets, while the Horde swings wild and takes out what it can.
I think Rastakhan even fits in this. The Alliance took out their leader and left the city and populace to exist.
What is proportional to using a Factions military in an attempt to kill a head of state? War does not seem disproportionate. Nor does total destruction of the city who harbors the people responsible.
I think an easier route is empowering the Horde characters. For example, making Saurfang the champion of Goldrinn or giving him a magic axe (as a random example). Thalryssa recovers Elisande’s staff. So on and so forth.
Saurfang getting the Axe of Cenarius would be pretty cool. As long as he uses it on the Alliance and not Sylvanas, that is. He can use it in a re-match against Malfurion. The irony would be hilarious. What about Gorehowl? I don’t think anyone’s using it currently and it’s supposed to be a powerful weapon. Maybe Rommath could get Felo’melorn! Also Sylvanas can teach us all how to turn into fart clouds. That’d be cool.
The fighting was still hundreds of feet away. Saurfang crept toward it, watching flashes of dark violet and emerald green ahead.
There was a tremendous explosion of darkness, and then a rising sound of collapsing trees. Saurfang ducked behind cover as an object flew through the air, bouncing off tree trunks before slamming to a halt in the dirt only thirty feet away.
Who was dabbing on who, now?
And that’s per the novel - the most recent description of their encounter.
There was a tremendous explosion of darkness, and then a rising sound of collapsing trees. Saurfang ducked behind cover as an object flew through the air, bouncing off tree trunks before slamming to a halt in the dirt only thirty feet away.¹
The object raised its head—his head.²
Saurfang saw antlers. Without thinking, he threw his axe.
The moment it left his hands, he wanted to call it back. That was Malfurion Stormrage, alive and preparing to rejoin the fight against the warchief.³
I think people have been fixated on this single description in A Good War, thinking it put Sylvanas on par with Malfurion and writing Sylvanas as somehow stronger than she has previously been portrayed as being, despite this single scene not actually giving us any conclusion towards how the fight was going. But what that scene doesn’t describe is if being bounced around through trees even caused Malfurion any harm or damage at all. It’s so often is these over the top superhero (and anime, for that matter) fights that heroes get blown through structures, like walls, buildings, mountains, or in this case trees¹, and get back up² like it was nothing at all³.
I agree with both OP and many of the things other people said. However there is one thing I think everyone is missing which I think explains this.
Blizzard has given each faction different writers and it’s even more complex because the novels and other out of game fiction has to connect and often those writers aren’t the same as the ones writing in-game stuff.
The Alliance writers and the Horde writers’ are literally not on the same page.
on a toilet but not on my bed. That hardly makes me a hypocrite. Venue matters.