Well, I didnt do naxx or aq40 but I did everything else without gearing for defense and I dont remember hitting the defense cap until I was already in kara so… yeah, defense wasn’t really required in vanilla.
Defense Cap is the biggest meme ever parroted by people who watch youtube tutorials on how to tank raids.
I lol’d. How’s that 12k Patchwerk crit going for ya?
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“I don’t remember, so therefore it wasn’t a thing.”
I appreciate your logic.
Is that going to be a hateful strike crit or what? Because hatefuls can never crit or crush. Great example bud.
Let me clarify: it wasn’t required until T4 or 5.
You’re not getting hit for 12k on Patchwerk. Normal melee hits are only ~3k (6k crit) after mit, and hateful strike can’t crit / crush anyways.
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Who’s Patchwerk?
You were saying? “bud”
i.imgur .com/jo3Crla.png
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Ok, now you are making sense. Now let me say that you are flat out wrong, not because you’ll agree with me, but so you won’t mislead onlookers. If a raid boss can fully crit a BIS-tank for more than their max HP, how is the defense cap optional? Answer is that it isn’t.
Whether you are intentionally trying to mislead people, or are acting off your memories from 15 years ago when you once tanked an MC, you shouldn’t state falsehoods with confidence.
Maybe don’t tank with a cloth wearer, neckbeardrage?
First of all, it’s a warrior in T3.
SECOND…you tried to claim Patchwerk was a bad example because crit wasn’t possible.
Did you forget he doesn’t only use hateful?
I lol’d at your failure.
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Why don’t you show the uncropped image then?
When did I say Patchwerk was a bad example? I’m saying he’s not critting your tanks for 12k in any way shape or form because his regular, non frenzied, attacks should be hitting you for about 2k in tier 3 in your case
I’ll wait for the uncropped image, bud.
wowwiki.fandom .com/wiki/Patchwerk_(original)
says otherwise. Not knowing the armor you’re wearing in that test image, or the tuning veracity of the server you tested, I can’t say how accurate that 16K you just posted is. That said, it looks like you tested w/ close to 0 armor rating, which leads to the following post-mit hit:
~16k unmitigated hit
~70% mitigation in T3 gear
Leads to ~5k post-mit crit, or 2.5k post-mit hit, which is exactly in the range of what WoW-Wiki said patchwerk’s melee hits should be. If you’re dying to a 5k crit your healers should be sent out on a boat in the pacific and sank.
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Confirmed troll. Flag and move on, folks.
Back to the topic on hand. How do you guys think that the 1.7 defense nerf is going to affect 1.1-1.6 content, and whether or not there should be measures taken to fix any unintended changes?
Moving the goal post are we?
I don’t work for you, and I don’t take orders.
You were WRONG simple as that and I provided proof of that. Where is your proof that tanks get hit for 2k(LOL) by patchwerk?
Awaiting the image.
Edit: Ohh and it’s mathematically impossible to get hit for 2k from Patchwerk. You can’t reach that level of damage reduction.
2.5kish would be the lowest.
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Try posting on an alt in the future so I can’t see that you’re affiliated with this train wreck.
You didn’t provide anything. Sorry kiddo.
Ohh you want proof of your ignorance again, you must have missed it the first time?
Here ya go!
i.imgur .com/jo3Crla.png
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Waiting on the uncropped image.
So what you’re saying is that 2.5k would be the lowest, which is what you should be having with a tank in tier 3 with inspiration/ancestral stacked with greater SS pots…how does 2.5k get multiplied to 12k again?
Looking at it, 2K is definitely possible reverse-engineering from your posted #s. 17k crit becomes an 8.5k hit.
8.5k hit * 73% armor (not even capped) --> 2295 hit.
At that point you only need ~300 block value to get a 2k hit. If armor is higher you need even less.