The 1% will never be satisfied until game is homogenized overwatch with raids

[Oakspirit-thrall]

i remember back in wrath. seeing a warrior with marrowgars axe.
that made me want to get into raiding in the first place. aspirations aren’t a bad thing.

also stop trying to make this about cutting edge progression. some of those abilities were performing 20-50% above other choices that’s not acceptable regardless of what tier of play you enjoy.

[Chazzwozzer-korgath (Chazzwozzer)]

@Ràlph-barthilas

Which works for me, as long as I am purple I am good uwu

You lost me there. Seeing you say that shows youre striving for the parses just like the rest of them are.

@Ràlph-barthilas

The game would be utterly boring without new systems and progression stuff, the old style of just classes, a world and some group content doesnt work anymore, more gimmicks are needed else the game would have died a long time ago, games that survive that long need to reinvent themselves else they stagnate and die.

I disagree with this. I’d rather they not have a bunch of new systems that drastically change the game. It would be better to have new stuff that we don’t have to put a bunch of grinding into.

[anon30972072]

@Ràlph-barthilas

And by 1% we obviously dont meant literally 1%, we refer to the toxic tryhard mentality that doesnt only exist in the literal 1% but many people who copy them in a desperate attempt to feel they are “good” even though they dont even understand how the game or their classes work most of the time

I don’t fit any of those and I want the same changes. Come at me.

[Raicolette-moon-guard (Raicolette)]

@Ràlph-barthilas

5% difference is enormous

5% is a huge difference in this game where the difference between specs on 1 class alone can be 10% or more. Let’s not even count the different classes not being within 5% of each other either.

Your ignorance on this is hilarious and I bet your guild laughs at you behind your back.

[Vhye-area-52 (Vhye)]

@Ràlph-barthilas

And by 1% we obviously dont meant literally 1%, we refer to the toxic tryhard mentality that doesnt only exist in the literal 1% but many people who copy them in a desperate attempt to feel they are “good” even though they dont even understand how the game or their classes work most of the time

As opposed to the clearly not toxic way you posted this?

Casual players are far more toxic than high end players. Why do you care about how someone else plays the game? Do you understand that the proposed change, while better, is still going to have a demonstrated negative impact without any corresponding positive effect?

[Astroworld-turalyon]

@Rooikat-misha

I feel like you’ve made this post already

I distinctly remember overwatch with raids in a thread

He did. I thought the same thing.

[Timbaeslice-frostmourne]

Celebrating an unban deserves a new thread right !

[Gallows-korialstrasz]

@Ràlph-barthilas

Which works for me, as long as I am purple I am good

And what if you’re not?

[Ràlph-barthilas]

@Crazie-garrosh

Eh, at this point I rather the conduits be a monthly lockout. Just so I can see all the chaos that it would bring.

Oh man, It would be hilarious, they literally made 3 soulbinds so ppl choose one for each spec if they want to multispec but god forbid if you dont have to use the best soulbind for everything xD

@Mcbeardy-bleeding-hollow

you do realize some of the sims have classes doing less than 50% the damage of others right? this isnt a 3% thing this is a massive difference that blizz keeps compounding on with adding more and more things.

And you do realize that happens every time and things are better after launch and after pre mythic tuning? Or do you like to pretend because things are unbalanced now they will remain for the launch.

WoW never was and never will be balanced to a satisfactory degree because tryhards would see even a 3% increase as enormous

@Sypress-cenarion-circle

It’s cute that you think you know people’s hidden thoughts on this.

Well many people avoid their own hidden thoughts and it sometimes shows a lot.

@Sypress-cenarion-circle

the other side of the community would prefer a different style.

Then they never make a choice, if yhou change to the obviously most optimal build for every boss you never make a choice or commit to anything, you never have real weaknesses that wou wont talent away for the encounter with a tome

@Raicolette-moon-guard

5% is a huge difference in this game where the difference between specs on 1 class alone can be 10% or more. Let’s not even count the different classes not being within 5% of each other either.

That is what bad players believe, any decent players know they can do content just fine and beat the majority of the playerbase even with a sub optimal build cuz skill always matters more.

My guild understands that, tryhard guilds fail to do that sadly which is why they are often so toxic.

[Tsataga-zuljin]

These covenant/conduit threads are always entertaining

[Mcbeardy-bleeding-hollow (Mcbeardy)]

@Ràlph-barthilas

And you do realize that happens every time and things are better after launch and after pre mythic tuning? Or do you like to pretend because things are unbalanced now they will remain for the launch.

and yet they keep adding new systems to tune before launch as well new covenant abilities are still being added. idk about you but i cant wait for the posts to come in after xpac launch saying why is this class doing 30% more damage than mine.

[Mashanllan-azshara]

I totally agree

[Ràlph-barthilas]

@Mcbeardy-bleeding-hollow

idk about you but i cant wait for the posts to come in after xpac launch saying why is this class doing 30% more damage than mine.

Ah yes like all the people obsessing over fire mage now cuz they show some huge damage and rerolled and were terrible at it xD

[Anubara-thrall-930525]

@Ràlph-barthilas

They gave them a ridiculous number of conduit changes that I believe is too much(10 charges are huge) and most still complain non stop because this was never about freedom, it was about them wanting to be optimal for every single boss, every single dungeon and sweeping all their character’s weaknesses in an encounter through a tome.

Nah, I just want to play off specs, because let’s be real, most classes only have 1-2 good conduits to begin with. Meaningful choice as an excuse is laughable for people who only play 1 spec, and only serves to punish people for playing an off spec. At what point should I just level a second druid as resto instead of trying to acquire resto gear on my current druid?

Also, why are class strengths and weaknesses always conveniently ignored when arguing for covenants.

@Ràlph-barthilas

These people dont want to play an RPG where you build a character that has strengths and weaknesses

What are the strengths of a Necrolord balance druid? What reason do I have in any form of content to play it? Covenants don’t solve your fix here.

@Ràlph-barthilas

They always and will always complain about balance because even 5% difference is enormous to them, for them a talent that gives them 3% more damage is impossible to not pick and then the same people will complain about choice as if they ever make any choices themselves and arent meta slaves that simply copy what the sims told them.

The difference between the best and worst loadout for Balance druid is nearly 30% currently.

@Ràlph-barthilas

That is the crowd that is trying to ruin WoW for everyone else

I don’t care what other people do. If you want your restriction, then don’t swap your covenants and soulbinds. I’m not telling you what to do. Only one side is trying to force their vision upon the other.

[Waidmann-gilneas (Waidmann)]

Because he is infamous for spamming these kind of threads .

He’ll just do a slight change to the title.

The last time he got a forum vacation and from the lloks of things he’s working on his next one.

He basically makes all these threads to troll the forums .

[Waidmann-gilneas (Waidmann)]

If Ralph wanted to stick to the truth he wouldn’t have half of GD that could actually counter his argument with facts on ignore.

[Rankin-shandris (Rankin)]

@Waidmann-gilneas

The last time he got a forum vacation and from the lloks of things he’s working on his next one.

It was a pretty long one too, I was starting to hope it was a permanent vacation. Maybe the next one will be.

[Waidmann-gilneas (Waidmann)]

Ralph thread time for an air drop

It's Raining Popcorn!

[Gallows-korialstrasz]

@Ràlph-barthilas

Which works for me, as long as I am purple I am good

Again, and what if you’re not?

[Gallows-korialstrasz]

I think he may have me on ignore. Probably cause I ask him questions he either doesn’t want to or can’t answer.