Thank you for killing m+ for me

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how do you even not time a 4 i just did a 3 on my monk tank who is just 606 meaning I maxed out lfr gear and crafted nothing no enchants and timed it with tons to spare as the 3rd dps in the group on the meter 2nd was barely ahead and first was only doing 650k we dont talk about the poor priest dps under all of us

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Threads is especialy bad because idiots can kill good players there.

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I’m sure a ton of other people here have already said this, but yeah. The key levels are harder from +2 now since the key difficulty squish they did. If I’m not mistaken, heroic dungeons are more in line with the difficulty of Dragonflight mythic 0s. So that’s kind of a reference point for the difficulty.

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What does “no gear for me out of the chest” have to do with this? You wouldn’t have gotten anything even if you timed it if we maintain the same RNG roll.

That’s because a +4 now was a +14 before. Maybe don’t jump straight into a +4 and start from +2 and actually learn the mechanics?

omg i cant do it so it’s bad.

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personally I think your guild needs to review the dungeon mechanics and maybe watch a how to guide on it if dps are dying either they are standing in stuff they are not moving properly or someones missing kicks if you did cot and people were dying to last boss its like cause they are one shot mechanics that are telegraphed and dodgable

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Right? That’s like the most fun part about gaming. You learn the mechanics and get better every run. Especially when you have a dedicated guild group rather than running these with randoms.

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well I know from his guilds io he has plenty of players in the guild that could guide them through these dungeons to learn them once they learn the dungeon going up to 8s or 10s is a lot easier
edit found the run they had a 624 dps with them who would have easily timed it for them I assume they kept losing people to dodgable mechanics

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So, progress like you do in raid? Learn the mechanics and do it?

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Man, you’re wording seems a bit condescending. I’m assuming if I looked at your keys ran from when you just started this toon it will definitely indicate you are one of those people that “knows what they’re doing”?

Oof, guess not. I guess you were part of that “Fifth affix” for at least 21 keys on week 1 of your adventures on that toon.

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M+ was turned into the sweatiest mode in the game as of DF S4. It’s only gotten worse in TWW S1. I hate what they’ve done to it.

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Skill issue. I’m really freaking sorry but 4s are snooze mode.

Yall are really bad at the game if you’re massively over time in a 4.

Get better, I believe yall can.

Unless yall are in like 570 gear, then maybe that makes more sense.

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Always have been (to me at least). Speedrunning the same dungeons over and over to stay on a slow-drip treadmill is not my definition of fun. Glad you have seen the light.

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Not to jump to his defense, but week 1 is where people learn, and many keys fail, and where we have less gear. Failing +4 right now is a completely different conversation that implies many different factors.

There’s this concept of “wave” in the community, where basically the way you progress in M+ puts you in a wave of similarly skilled players. There is a very noticeable difference between people farming 10s, and those stuck in below 7s, those are different waves of people differentiated by player skills, experience, knowledge, time played, etc.

Sometimes the issue is not the way M+ is made, it’s the players behind the keyboard. Failing 4s today is a player issue, 10000%.

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A +4 is now is like a 12-14+ of last season. You actually need to start lower and practice and learn, just like in raiding, unless you massively outgear the encounter.

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i dont understand what the anger is directed at here. You failed a key that was higher than what you used to run in DF. Just run lower keys

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Lol what ? a +4 is a 14 in DF S1-S3

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Skill issue. Learn the dungeon, learn your class, the tools are there.

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Mythic+0 same as +10?
Really?

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Basically, yeah. Thanks to tanks being nerfed except prot paladin.

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not to be a jerk or anything but what guild is requiring you to only do a +4? that part confuses me. mythic guilds are requiring 10s so that means it must be an aotc guild and thats just weird to me. maybe im the only one.