Thank God Blizzard doesn't listen to this Community

Seventeen years and you haven’t figured out that Blizz doesn’t need a poll in order to lie to us.

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The only reason we started to regularly say “go play retail” is because you’ve opted to use the “go play Classic” argument in the first place.

Pick a better argument and maybe we might feel obligated to as well.

Go ahead, start the positive cycle.

Spoilers: you won’t.

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Except… that faction imbalance exists without race change. Race change at the moment would have helped fix that faction imbalance because the desire is on the opposite side. Specifically for people wanting the human racial. Thus lowering the horde and raising the alliance.

For someone who says they have been around. You sure don’t know your history of why race change is blamed for the faction imbalance. It wasn’t the cause. It just made it easier. You see. What started the faction imbalance was Blizzard designing a fight where one specific race had a massive advantage over every other race because it could skip over a mechanic. Guess what top-end raiders did? They all became goblins. They would have done that regardless. That had a trickle-down effect. Just like in classic Guilds leaving had a trickle-down effect that killed entire realms.

With retail it was factions. With classic it was realms.

No, it didn’t if any did it was LFR… but LFR didn’t either (and I’m against LFR). Plenty of MMOs have LFD systems. They all have communities. It isn’t LFD it is the player base choosing to be anti-social. No one is stopping people from using in-game chats to talk with people during a dungeon. Nothing is stopping you from queueing with that same group because you like the vibe. Nothing is stopping from adding that player and playing with them again. Nothing but you.

The thing is. You don’t want to blame yourself. You want to blame something because… You don’t want to be the issue here.

or you know… that player that wants to use two specs. Can get off their rear-end and put int he work to use two specs instead being mediocre at both. It is no different then playing two character. If you put in half work at both. You are going to be terrible at both.

Are you talking the stance that people shouldn’t play alts? If so screw you. You have no idea what you are talking about and you lost any credibility you might have had.

Blizzard didn’t listen to the community and TBCC turned out this way for it.

We told Blizzard lock realms. They ignored us. We now have mega-realms as the only real option of play.

We told Blizzard to not introduced a character boost because it would to make bots easier to get to the point they want to be at while removing the time period they are at risk from our reports. They ignored us. Bot became more rampant and you saw boosted bots everywhere.

We told Blizzard not to introduced same faction battle grounds. They ignored us. Faction imbalance got worse because the only thing disincentiving faction stacking was removed.

We told Blizzard if they were going to give free transfers to only allow it to medium pop realms. They ignored us. The results was that all but a handful of realms are now dead.

Blizzard hasn’t listened to us once. They put forth their own solutions as things the community wanted then pat themselves on the back. They remove and implement things and tell us we don’t know what we want. Until low and behold they are wrong and it blows up in their face. Then they finally do what we have been telling them for a year and act as if they were listening to the community. They weren’t, and they don’t care.

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WTF you even talking about at this point? Play retail was a stupid argument in vanilla classic and it’s an even stupider argument now that vanilla classic is basically set in stone and you have a safe ground to run to with no LFD.

You mean like being totally fine with reasonable middle grounds, like for example leaving the quest givers in the cities and not having rewards tied directly to LFD. Or having the system prioritize same realm first before going cross realm. Or not teleporting to the dungeon so people still have to run.

That addresses all the complaints people have about LFD, but I’m sure that is not acceptable to you since you are just a hater.

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I made it this far before being completely certain you never played Wrath, since this is 100% false. LFD gets players out in the world. It gives them freedom to do what they want, when they want, how they want as they wait. The alternative is spamming the LFG channel non-stop until you find a group. And this is far worse in Classic where that LFG channel is an endless barrage of dungeon buying and selling, and joining a group is virtually impossible unless you want to spend gold.

I give the OP a little leeway, since this is Sunday. But if this was legit, listening to players like this is what will sink Wrath Classic.

It’s a troll statement.

Let’s remove DKs from Wrath Classic. You want to play a DK, go play Retail!!!
Let’s remove battlegrounds from Wrath Classic. You want to do BGs, go play Retail!!
Let’s remove flying mounts from Wrath Classic. You want to fly, go play Retail!!!

You could apply that ridiculous reasoning to literally anything in the game that exists both in Wrath and Classic. Imagine telling someone to go play Retail because they want a feature that was added 13 years ago in Wrath. But trolls are gonna troll. I just report them now and move on.

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If you want same faction BG’s just go play retail!!!

Oh wait…

Gotta love hypocrisy.

Boom! Headshot!

Imagine being this miserable of a person.

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laughs in WoD Flying removal

OP is a troll, report and move on.

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Indeed. The Classic devs have zero consistency in their design choices.

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We can only hope enough horde players complain about no LFD.

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Did you walk to school uphill both ways too grandad?

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Nobody cares.

You’re confusing race changes and faction changes, and Blizzard trying to keep the two faction system despite clear problems with balance caused this in the first place. We already see on private servers and Classic a discrepancy in the factions, adding faction change isn’t going to cause it. It’s already there.

Server communities are great, but there are too many dead servers as is and players are stranded there if they don’t want to pay a premium to leave. It’s not 2007 anymore, the community and playerbase has long since changed.

Blizzard handles servers terribly. They’re isolated, which is great for healthy populations but bad for the many, many dead servers.

Even with two specs, there’s still limitations already as people have to choose between PvE, PvP, and role. Also if a player is, “bad at both” then limiting the amount of times they can change isn’t going to help anyway.

No they’re not.

Sounds like fascism.

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I’m just as old as you are, and I’ve been playing wow since day 1 and all of this you just posted is a big load of crap. None of what you stated has anything to do w/why retail is bad, or anti-social, etc.

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The only thing you got right was the title.

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Not really, considering those looking for no LFD can just play Wrath Classic, which doesn’t have LFD.

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Til they revert their decision and then you all hate us because we tell you to go play era, where you belong.

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Wishful thinking, considering the statements from the lead dev.

Given this unlikely hypothetical, I’ll still play Wrath, just like you’ll still play it even without LFD.

There is simply no way Blizzard isn’t already planning to cave and, “listen” to the community and put LFD back in. Blizzard has pulled this PR nonsense a number of times.

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Yep weve all seen this song and dance from them before and every single time they revert their decision you get the same surprised pikachu face from those who laughably believed them

And considering Bloomsday is in favor of the decision the odds are even better itll get reverted

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