Testing Adding Damage Reduction to PvP

[Petitpasfin-benediction]

these change just ruined ele shaman

[Wasianbroly-living-flame]

@Rotbane-lone-wolf

These changes are great. Rot lock is back!

exactly how i feel about shadow priest! SP #1 again baby cant wait to see everyone complain and whine again

[Zevaria-black-dragonflight]

Healers are far too powerful with this blanket damage reduction, if this is desired direction, they need a good, 20-30% healing output reduction in PvP I’d suggest.

[Killingace-benediction]

@Wilding-eranikus

I disagree; warriors will benefit heavily from this. Warriors excel in this kind of meta because they have infinite resource gen, high passive damage reduction, good consistent mobility. Those things are much better in longer battles of attrition than in quick bursty meta.

And of course Mortal Strike. Mortal Strike alone will make warriors 100% mandatory in BGs

One major flaw in your thinking which what the other posters main point was.

Everything you listed requires rage.
And the other poster was saying he’s constantly hearing
“I can’t do that yet, not enough rage”
“I don’t have enough rage”
“Need more rage”

But then again the other person is oom soo…

Back to slap fest

[Rahtal-malganis (Rahtal)]

Think you guys went a wee bit too hard. Bear druids can’t die and 2 healers can keep a group alive for 5+ min before going oom.

Yes, it makes MS effects and mana burn / viper sting more useful, as it does cc, but it’s too far off the tipping point.

Scale it back from the 50% reduction (so it seems?) you put in place. 20-30% is more than enough with the health pools.

[Cornbred-crusader-strike]

These morons didnt even get rid of the STV stamina buff, so it ruined the event. Nobody is dying.

[Wasianbroly-living-flame]

@Zevaria-black-dragonflight

Healers are far too powerful with this blanket damage reduction, if this is desired direction, they need a good, 20-30% healing output reduction in PvP I’d suggest.

you are insane. did you see how bad the ENTIRE phase-2 was for healers? even p3 is a zug fest. healers being optimal in pvp ESPEICALLY GROUP PLAY is completely okay. if youre losing bc the enemy team has 2-3 healers and your team has 0 then it looks like you and some others gotta reroll.

i legit stopped healing in pvp bc how trash healers are even priest. which is why i go shadow and rekt havoc

[Rotbane-lone-wolf]

I’m 1v2ing people with ease with only my instants. Only thing that sucks is how UA isn’t prioritized as a dispel over my other dots.

[Chucknorris-living-flame]

Fantastic changes. Actual fights now. Just need to fix healing. And apply the nerfs to pets.

[Dumpstadiver-arugal]

50% dmg reduction?? That’s your test?
Fights just go until healers are oom now and make some healers virtually immortal again.
Needs to be more like a 20% dmg reduction

[Armaks-tichondrius]

Damage reduction changes are good, a reduction in healing also would make this change good.

[Studawtf-faerlina]

Shouldn’t even need to adjust PvE v.s. PvP differentiations! What happened to proper math? How can a billion dollar company fail to scale spells and gear statistics appropriately on a 20 year old game.

[Dumpstadiver-arugal]

burst meta is always better than drain mana / dot meta
always
just need to be the right level of burst
this just opens the door for viper sting, mana drain gameplay which is cancerous

[Wasianbroly-living-flame]

@Dumpstadiver-arugal

burst meta is always better than drain mana / dot meta

facts. burst meta > all

[Klutchx-whitemane]

needs more along the lines of some fine tuning but i could maybe be game to test out 10 percent even 20 will be a bit much for Overall dmg i dont think touching overall dmg is the play at all

[Cornbred-crusader-strike]

As the phases go on

I think its quite clear that the modern classic teams goodwill from the community is only there because the community is still in love with the work produced by the original devs.

P3 was a pretty big revelation about how competent this team is at creating unique content. Does not bode well for the future.

[Taijutsú-crusader-strike]

This aint it.

The only thing blanket damage reduction does in the current state of the game is make classes which are ALREADY performing well in PvP (Boomkins, SP’s, Shamans, Locks) even more oppressive.

This is a bandaid solution, and I understand the team is small and has Cata + Phase 4 on their plate (both of which I hope go well) but I can promise you that everyone who enjoys PvP and is NOT playing one of the above listed would much rather play a bursty game opposed to DoT/Hybrid classes being the meta for world PvP and whoever has more healers, wins in BGs meta.

Whatever % value you’re running now, cut it in half and lets see how that feels because this is already a dumpster fire

[Klutchx-whitemane]

i just did a wsg as a resto druid and we got a disc priest the other team had 2 disc priests…i left after it was still 0 to 0 and about 45 mins in…rofl

[Fruitcupp-emerald-dream]

worst take ive read.

[Dumpstadiver-arugal]

There needs to be a dmg reduction, boomkins are hitting ppl for 2k plus now, thats more than half peoples already buffed hp.
there needs to be a dmg reduction but it isnt 50%
20% probs makes the most sense to see how things feel