How do we know this is the work of a single person and not several auction house nilbogs? To me it seems extremely unlikely one person could do this much.
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Considering you have the ability to create your own addon and combat the person who has control, and yet you come to an internet forum because someone who clearly has more skills than you has an advantage.
There is nothing but your own ability limiting you here, so itâs a you problem as far as I am concerned.
Very childish to demand someone be punished in an environment that doesnât prevent you from competing.
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Is this person you? How could you know one person has control over that many? And buying up deals doesnât mean control anyway.
Post a video of this person claiming they control 36 auction houses - they surely would be interested in real money if they are so interested in pretend money.
it is 36 accounts now required to do this? do you know what kind of computer power that would take to run TSM at the same time on all of them?
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Well if that person has the means to legally no life that many auction houses with their millions of gold then there isnât much Blizz can do. I also donât know how you legit see the name and actively see it on over 30 servers.
It is a free market per se so just like BlackRock in real life has over 10 trillion in assets, buying selling, etc⌠a baron in WoW can control a lot of the market if they so please.
Honestly my gripe is more that BFA brought on more gold makers and in SL they have basically trashed a lot of prices on a looooooot of stuff.
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II am doubtful OP knows what they are talking about you donât need 36 accounts to âcontrolâ 36 auction houses. It would be actually be a silly way to do this plus TSM takes a fair bit of computer power to run - no one is running 36 copies of the game on one computer plus doing TSM scans at the same time.
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citation needed
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i think those are both bad ideas.
nothing. you havenât really made the case that thereâs an actual problemâŚ
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I think the crux of OPâs post from what I gather is they assume said person is running an altered addon that was killed off and said script of it for days on in that alerts them to ââdealsââ on the TuJ page. That is hard to prove IMO.
I do agree with your post though Marla. At most, Iâve read people have 2 accounts up but over 30 is just insane.
I think it all boils down to more people at home these past few years, more people gold making, and thus said deals are few and far between⌠so OP, if you arenât on your game, youâll miss out on the deals, itâs just how itâs always been, itâs just more crowded now in the goldmaking section.
I remember snagging a felsteel longblade recipe for 1k gold or something by mere luck when just waiting on TuJ to refresh to see deals. Past that, someone has always been faster at getting that certain item.
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i think thatâs a lot of it. people have gotten savvier about finding good deals. i still find them often, but itâs not as easy as it used to be and margins are slimmer.
a smart player who knows their realmâs market is always going to be able to make gold. somebody who downloaded a âhow to make quick gold flipping on the AH!!!â guide (and is scanning TUJ for the same items everyone else is scanning for) is not going to find any âgood dealsâ for an obvious reason that doesnât point to a single nefarious goblin.
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well he is suggesting changes based on no proof from what I can see. He sounds like someone who used to do that snipping business and canât compete now so is sore about it.
I originally thought it was TSM - but after rereading it is a custom made addon but still if the addon itself is legal and there is no indication it isnât then I donât see the problem really. Someone is making money on items posted low and selling them high. Like it appears OP wants to do.
The people who posted the item get their money and the people who bought the item were happy enough with what they got and neither party really had to use that AH. So this just sounds like sour grapes from a competitor.
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So not sure that I fully understood the OP.
Assuming addon that automates the buying process in-game sounds like it is botting and/or something should be done about it.
If someone built an app that can use the WoW AH apis to create shopping lists for themselves ⌠I donât see an issue with this. Nor do I think they need to remove, edit apis for this.
I had numerous accounts that each purchased Warcraft III: Reforged. As a result, that also meant that I could post on the forums from multiple identities. If you actually were up against a single human using 30 paid WoW accounts simultanously, then they could surely also reply to this thread many or multiple times under different character identities in order to derail your topic or discredit you.
Wouldnât that be true, or am I not understanding?
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The Bilderbergers control the wow economy now too?
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Yes, because 
Honestly? Nothing really. If addons provide TOO much of an advantage Blizz can break an addon. Otherwise, playing the game as an economy simulator is well within the game permissions and is a valid play style. People have been doing this since Vanilla and before addons existed. We had one guy who controlled the whole plate market on the server. Everyone hated him, but it was as valid play style.
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For WC3R it was tied to your Battletag. Posts on the WoW forums are tied to your Character. One WC3R license per Bnet account.
One Bnet account can have 8 WoW licenses. On each license you can have 50 characters (or more now with Classic?). So, one Bnet account can have 50 X 8 = 400 characters posting separately as different identities.
Yes, I think this is a problem and posting and trust levels should be tied to the Btag - character would be an avatar choice.
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yes lets pretend everyone including you mirasol that doesnât see a problem with this is all one personâŚ
this person gained an advantage over the normal player by paying for an advantage, yet he is complaining about someone else who built an addon to gain an advantage over othersâŚ
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BY ELUNE! Itâs worse than I thought!
Or maybe better if we assume no indicator of identity has meaning here.
Anyway, thanks for clarifying. I bought WoW time so I could reply on these forums a few weeks ago when I felt like doing so, but as someone who mains Reforged I am an ethereal out-of-the-loop being beyond your wildest imagination. Played WoW for like an hour to get moneysworth, but itâs hard to get back into aftet so long and all the stickler mechanics meant to boost engagement just cause regret if youâve not really been engaged with the content emotionally for a decade.
there is no problem - blizzard either sees a problem with OPâs complaint or it doesnât. They donât need 20 people to agree with OP or disagree with them.
You also could be OP, trying to discredit others who disagree with him but guess what it makes no difference in the end.
Yes, itâs fair.
If theyâre cheating or exploiting, they should be banned. Have you reported the player? I donât know one way or the other, they may be doing both.
Undermine Journal gets snapshots of data every hour. If the Undermine Journal is legal, then whatever this guy is doing is legal.
If they get an alert, then go login, then flip the item, thatâs legal. Because theyâre doing it manually, even if they have an addon that does it for them.
Why is this fair?
Itâs fair because Blizzard is specifically enabling it in the first place (by producing the API that these systems rely upon).
Itâs fair that anyone qualified can go out and do the same thing. Whatever code this person wrote for their own personal use does not stop someone else from writing the same code. Just because not everyone can write code, does not make it unfair.
This person may have become one of the Work From Home people that makes it easier for them to play games on the sly during work hours than before. That may be why this showed up.
I do not have the personality of many WoW players that pour zillions of hours into this game. That doesnât make it less fair when those that do achieve more than I do.
Can you think of an AH system that can prevent the behavior of someone who can dedicate the time and effort to do what this person is doing?
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They did change this, it was worse in the past, you could call 50 times a minute and it would lag the AH. Now if you call too many times it limits how many times you can call. Itâs not perfect, but itâs not great either.
Not just for this issue, but for all AH goblins and the entire AH in general, worse with the introduction of the leggo system, they need to put a cap on prices for everything. Than make a region wide AH so we all have access to all the parts on all the realms for the same price.
Why should someone be able to pickup every herb on the AH and flip them from 6G to 180G within minutes? That happened to my realm, someone took one specific herb that is used for flasks, brought the entire stock and upped the price 30x what it was. Now flask prices have gone from 300g to 800g each just because those who make flasks, but cannot spend hours farming mats and have to pay the AH price, are pushes whatever is made up.
There is also those funny buggers who get items worth 20G and make a single post for 400,000g. Doing this makes all those AH addons that take average and market value prices and pushes those prices up. So when people post at average, instead of it being 20-25G, itâs now 200G thanks to some dude posting those items for well over the price.
The whole AH needs to be monitored because there is a whole raft of dodgy things people can do to make money simply because they have the time, the addons and the bots to run the show.
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Gordon Gekko approves 
Economy Watch lol. Sounds like some show on a cable news network channel