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Retail AH sucks terribly. The look and feel. With the lack of world drops its lost all of its meaning.

I wanted to comment on this waaaaaaaaaay long ago but my account expired.

As a fan of automation, I’m amazed (Assuming it’s an actual thing). But as someone with a moral background, this is just downright unethical.

Reminds me of scalping really. Difference is, there’s zero we can do about that. In this case, Blizzard can kill off the automation, and they have been known to. Heal Bot comes to mind.

Automation shouldn’t grant someone financial gain in a video game. No matter how genius it is. That skill set is best left for ruining real life scenarios.

How is automation granting someone “financial gain” in this situation? You can’t cancel, post or grab items out of a mailbox without the player performing an action. If someone has automated either one of those actions, then they’re botting with an external program, which of course has nothing to do with legitimate in-game addons.

You just answered the question yourself.

Automation isn’t limited to an addon. You can automate UI actions from .NET library calls. And if they simulate human interaction, Blizzard can’t really tell it’s happening.

They probably don’t care in the first place. There’s likely thousands of people automating the UI, dissecting the data stream, and doing all sorts of illegal things that are incredibly difficult to spot.

So, if someone thinks someone else is botting, then report them to hacks@blizzard.com . I’ve said this time and time again in this thread.

If you can actually target them, then target them and right-click->Report for Cheating. Fill out your essay in there.

Botting is not limited to AH usage - that’s anywhere in the game. Report them and move on.

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You have anything else to add to the larger discussion other than what you’ve said already?

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Sorry, I’ll keep defending legitimate in-game addons and continue to instruct others how to report botting. If you don’t like it, you can put me on Ignore.

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To be clear with language, being ignorant of something is not a bad thing. Being ignorant is simply a lack of knowledge, and by no means is ignorance insulting. For example, I am personally ignorant about rocket science. There’s no shame in my lack of knowledge. Okay, good?

I see a lot of people here either asking questions or posting statements regarding what WoW addons can and cannot do, frequently mentioning either multiboxing or automation. Both are not possible with addons. For those interested, Phanx wrote a great post on the old Curseforge forums explaining what addons can and, crucially, cannot do.

https://authors.curseforge.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/addon-chat/addon-ideas/216288-things-addons-cant-do-read-this-before-posting

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You carry on the good fight. I for one won’t ignore you for doing right.

Nope. All he does is troll this post because he’s a “gold maker” and changing this will affect him financially.

Ans Sniper can run a continuous scan. TSM can as well, through Sniper. What exactly are you saying can’t be automated? Searching for items on the ah can be automated, that’s the entire purpose of Sniper and what made TSM so popular back in the day. This is what you and humanbeak are failing to understand. This isn’t a bot, this is an overlooked feature that’s now being abused by a faulty mechanic found within the search api.

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Ding ding ding.

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I thought you had me on ignore?

Scanning isn’t automated. You have to press a button to initiate a scan.

Buying isn’t automated. You have to press a button to buy something.

Selling isn’t automated. You have to press a button to sell something.

Canceling isn’t automated. You have to press a button to cancel something.

“Hey this item is on the AH for a great deal and this addon is letting me know so I can make a decision” is much, much different than “Hey this item is on AH for a great deal and this addon will automatically buy it!”

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Yea. People like you are why I got permabanned for “botting” when I got my bruto when all I was doing was the shaldorei silk pantaloon shuffle on 4 accounts. 100k a day clicking “create all”.

Bunch of jealous people reported me, accounts closed… then appeal closed, until FINALLY they investigated and found I was doing nothing wrong, because I wasn’t automating a single thing. Create all isn’t automation. Wasted so much time being banned for no reason.

This is also why you record 100% of the time you are playing if you make a lot of gold. Jealous false reporting.

I’m on an NA server and have not noticed anyone “controlling” the market – rather I see a bunch of sellers for everything I deal with.

If someone is controlling the TCG market, then I don’t really care. It’s .0000001% of the AH.

That isn’t automation. The user has to perform hardware inputs to start the scans, and more hardware inputs whenever the user wants to make a purchase. The Lua APIs can iterate through the auction listings, like a loop. That isn’t automation, either.

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Ding, ding, ding, yourself LOL.

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That’s not true at all. Auctionator has the power to start a scan as soon as you open the ah. I’m not talking about purchasing or listing items, this is purely a discussion on running a scan to find items. I don’t care about having to initiate a scan, I care about being able to keep that scan going while you’re afk, which is possible.

It’s as if a user performed an action that allowed the scan to initiate.

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We understand perfectly well, thank you. I can’t speak for Humanbeak, but I write WoW addons. You are in error. Nothing you have claimed about Lua or addons has been correct.

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Then tell me how AnS Sniper runs its scan one the scan is started. Just read through Phanx’s post. Nothing about auction house scans is discussed.