Telling players they can bring whatever spec they want into raids

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Is like telling them they can play basketball using a net that wasn’t designed with being big enough for the ball to actually go through in mind.

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Just use a broomstick to poke said proverbial basketball back out.

Just because it’s less than ideal doesn’t mean it can’t work.

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“Ok I got the ball out Timmy we can play again!”

throws into the hoop

ball gets stuck again

“Oh yeah we’re still using that crappy net lol”

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Are you projecting your ideals unto others?

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Telling people they can play whatever spec they want in raids is cruel and misleading, it’s basically the equivalent of telling a little person they can be a star NBA player.

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Little wordy, little convoluted. Needs more punch, lower word count.

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It’s not my ideals.

Go look up tier sets for warriors and any class with a healing spec and tell me it was the playerbase “projecting ideals” that was responsible for the pigeonholing in vanilla.

It wasn’t. Blizzard just didn’t design a lot of hybrid classes to perform well in every role in a raiding environment. They just didn’t. Itemization in vanilla was atrocious. Class mechanics like getting mana back no matter what whenever you judged that helped overcome resource sustainability just didn’t exist.

I’m not telling people what to play, I’m only making the point that I keep seeing people say “play whatever you want. The community is a lot better and open minded now then they were back then.”

I’m saying that doesn’t matter. It wasn’t necessarily the community holding you back in vanilla. A lot of the times it was the design of the game itself.

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As long as you aren’t playing a ret paladin you’re gtg.

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I mean he wasn’t a little person but Muggsy Bogues. So what we can gather is if you work harder than everyone else you can do it.

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Why are you a paladin and not a priest then?

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I’ll be the Spud Webb of Classic raids

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:+1: Yeah, and Doug Flutie was too short to play quarterback in the NFL.

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prot paladin here I come!

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I mean my team just drafted Murray so… I hope he exceeds Flutie.

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Didn’t realize Spudd was so short too. I actually liked him growing up makes a lot more sense now (I was short, later growth spurt, now I am average).

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Listed at 5’7”… and that was supposedly very generous.

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Honest question- do you feel that the only way someone can enjoy something is by doing it in the most optimal way possible?

I don’t think anyone is going to argue that there’s going to be a raiding meta where hybrid and off-specs won’t be welcome. But I’d venture to say that there will be plenty of people who don’t care about being the absolute best.

Personally, I’d still have fun just playing basketball with my buddies even with a messed up net slowing down our game a bit. It is, after all, just a game.

You’re free to play in a group that shares your views but to say that there’s no place for anything less than absolutely ideal is ridiculous.

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You should realize we’re getting 1.12.

The early raids will be easy enough to “raid with whatever you want”. We are getting a nerfed game

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I hadn’t really thought about it much before, but remembering the earrrrllllyyy days of WoW and games like EQ early on as well, it makes me kinda miss the days where people played what they wanted to for fun, and they all still did content together.

I’m not sure if theorycrafting has been more positive or negative for MMOs in general, honestly.

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Raids can have 40 people, there’s room for some inefficiency. The game doesn’t need to be min-maxed to be played, not at all

I’d rather a good player on a ret paladin than a bad player on a dwarf priest

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