Teldrassil Payback Announced!

My favorite part in all of this, is that technically the Zandalari aren’t part of the Horde yet in 8.1.

They’re allies of the Horde, but they haven’t joined the Horde.

So we kill a TECHNICALLY neutral Rastakhan that is already dying because his lifeline, Rezan, is dead (and he bound himself to a death god), and that’s somehow equivalent to Teldrassil.

Rastakhan’s death is what pulls the Zandalari onto the Horde. It’s literally the entire reason we have to wait until 8.1.5 for playable KT/Zandalari.

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yup burning a tree down, killing tons of innocent civilians and making refugees of the survivors… totally the same as a (clearly going to be) rebuffed assault on Trollzalor. I mean, outside of King Deadmeatwalking, and maybe a couple of nobodies…who dies in the raid?

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I mean even killing Rastakhan is a good thing for the Horde.

It more solidly ties the Zandalari to the Horde, and gets rid of an ineffective leader. In the Horde questing experience, Rastakhan is wrong about literally everything and Talanji (who presumably will succeed him) was right about everything and her actions ensured that things like the Blood Troll invasion, or their shenanigans in Nazmir didn’t go nearly as bad as they could have.

I mean if we’re being pedantic, just because they’re not in the Horde doesn’t mean they’re neutral. Kul Tiras isn’t officially part of the Alliance either, but they sure as hell don’t like the Horde.

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points to Brennadem

Yeah… Can you guess why? And the Horde did kinda kill their king.

Kul’Tiras joined the Alliance at the conclusion of the questing.

Or did you miss the entire ceremony quest where Jaina was appointed leader by Katherine, Brother Pike, Lucille, and Tandred, and Anduin welcomed them into the Alliance?

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This entire post is based off opinion and bias… lol

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You’re right. The quest ended on a “we’re BFF’s now, we’ll finalize the paperwork later” note.

The point still stands though, in that the Zandalari aren’t technically part of the Horde yet, but that doesn’t exactly make them neutral.

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Kul’Tiras was never neutral though. They were one of the original human kingdoms back in the second war. Same for Gilneas.
We are only “rediscovering” them now after a period of isolation due to Jaina’s “betrayal” in Warcraft III.

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Meanwhile the Horde has been at war with the Zandalari since Classic. I know at the very least that Classic, Cata, and Pandaria all had them as enemies for the Horde to kill. Probably more.

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That’s accurate. Zandalar have been an agonistic force since it’s insertion.

actually done the horde said twice more (total 5) and finding out all kinds of interesting facts. it is very hard. But I think I might have hit about 86% of the quest done. man they need to fix horde side questing. You can be riding along and there a quest and its a lore quest at that. why it out in middle of no were is beyond me.

anyways. it seem that the trolls were actually in process of serving the horde. In that dang swamp from hell. I found four very interesting lore quest. it all points to king supporting the horde. Sorry did not mark them. Two on left center side with big pit. One inside of pit bottom right side. the last on in upper corner. You will miss them if not looking. they are sparking no other induction at all.

There was a very interesting talking scene. Were he admits he was wrong. That he might join horde. he went on talking to his daughter of all pass wrongs he done. So next patch is even more confusing for me. As it seem that they were going to join. then why kill him off. This guy quest are very interesting. can someone pass along this and have someone answer this one.

This thread just proves that Alliance will never be happy, will never consider anything good enough, will always assume that everything is “muh hord favurtizm!”. Why should Blizz even bother trying to appease the perpetually ungrateful?

Incoming “you play horde” remarks even though I play both sides…

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I’m still waiting on my brutal alliance campaign with Tyrande and Genn going from horde town to town burning, pillaging and leaving the citizens on top of pikes outside of the town walls.

Or for the alliance to sabotage both of the elf wells causing them to wither away slowly and painfully.

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Why exactly would we be happy that the devs are writing yet another raid to fight characters that we have never even heard of, let alone have a reason to want dead?

First we had no reason to go to Uldir, while the Horde have an entire zone about it. Now we’re supposed to go kill some Troll I’ve never seen, heard of, or interacted with, who has done literally nothing to us.

Oh, but we’ll get to attack our heroes. That makes it worth it, right?

Given that literally every Horde Druid in lore, including the player characters, go to sleep in the Barrow Dens under Sentinel guard, I’m just waiting for the quest to go through them and slit the throats of Hamuul Runetotem and every other Horde Druid there.

And whenever they try to go to Moonglade or their Order Hall, they get attacked by absolutely everyone, and the longer they stay there, the more Druid NPCs come attack them until eventually Cenarius or Malorne just show up and one shot them.

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I would so be down with killing Cenarius or Malorne on my Night Elf. They deserve it for not helping out Teldrassil.

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I am sense some past boyfriend issues :smirk:? cause that kind of thing is pretty ruthless.

Night Elves could use some population trimming, kinda tired of seeing so many night elves everywhere. There are so many female night elves, it’s as if the male night elves don’t exist.

And just to add, this is the only message that writers/developers will be able to take away from this thread and the others like it.

I wouldn’t stay with a faction capable of committing such atrocities. My personal moral code would never allow this. I’m sure there are others who think the same.

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Oh well …

/shadowmeld