As much as it REALLLLY guts me to say this. I honestly think that they may as well do WoW Tokens for TBC at this point (If everyone is going to be able to bring their thousands and thousands of gold from WoW Classic to TBC.)
I personally got around 11K gold on Classic, and I don’t want that going into TBC. I didn’t even try that hard to get that gold either. I quit shortly after BWL was cleared by the sprinters.
I really would rather see Blizzard HEAVILY restrict what people can bring into TBC (For example up to 1000 gold, no consumables, up to 1 stack of crafting reagents - For example Copper Ore) but I don’t see that happening at this point.
At the end of the day if Blizzard wants to be “True neutral” and “give everyone a fighting chance.” I would say this is the best way. Plus they’ll obviously make more money, and squash the botting / gold selling industry. Seems like a win-win to me.
To be dully noted I hate the idea of WoW Tokens in Classic/TBC but I just don’t see another way at this point.
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Gib ur gold to those who are new/poor on your server so you don’t have to bring it with you into TBC. Help others less fortunate.
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Agreed. At this point the meme that the Classics (both old world and TBC) are anything like the original is dead.
Get rid of the bots (and do something about inflation) or provide tokens. It’s one or the other.
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I feel like this would hurt the chances of a fresh bc server
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What are you talking about? Retail is LOUSY with bots. Tokens don’t do anything to stop botting/exploiting/hacking/RMT. What Blizzard SHOULD do is ban gold buyers.
Just make your gold the way it was originally designed and play the damn game.
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Yeah, that’d work too. But they still need to de-inflate. As I said, one or the other.
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Yeah no, wish downvoting was still a thing on these forums.
most gold on classic rn are from bots, and thats why i would like to see a reset mostly, mainly because they havnt enforced bans on the botting systems.
but if wow tokens even CLOSELY ENTER the TBC i will quit it in a heartbeat.
Selling or buying gold should just result in a perma ban, they havnt enforced this yet, which is the dumbest thing and has been since the early days going back to end of classic, there was a time it was fully banned, but it changed for some obscurred reason.
To just pinpoint as mentioned above.
- Wow tokens does not prevent people from botting, it increases it.
- Wow Tokens does not decrease the amount of gold sellers, it increases it.
- Wow Tokens does not result in less people buying gold, it increases it.
- Wow Tokens “should be introduced” because other people have alot of gold, how does this even make sense?
- Wow Tokens has a negative influence on the market value of items
- Wow Tokens introduces a distaste in playing the game, opting you to not enjoy the game from what it offers, and only raid log for example. Which will result in the player base dying out faster.
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Wish downvoting was a thing so I could downvote your post. I totally disagree with your opinions. I understand that’s how YOU feel about WoW tokens but those aren’t facts.
WoW tokens would benefit not only Blizz but those who can’t play 24 hours a day to stack 100s of thousands of gold and raise economy prices so high that only hardcore 8 hours plus a day players would be able to interact with AH. Basically the causal gamer, who I’d assume makes up majority of the game.
Only people I see not liking this, IMO, are hardcore players with the time to make/level 50 toons to farm. Probably would be mad that someone could get the same or more amount of gold without putting in 8 hours a day to obtain it.
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That makes no sense.
You are arguing for “fresh start” TBC servers, and/or limits on how much gold players can KEEP when TBC launches.
So you are saying we have too much gold, so the solution is to give us more gold…isn’t that backwards?
Let’s be honest. In ANY game on earth, a casual player cannot compete with an “8 hours plus a day player”.
I like playing tennis EVEN THOUGH I cannot compete with world champion players.
If you are miserable unless you compete with the best, then you are miserable. Don’t blame anyone else for it.
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They can’t do anything about inflation. The gold in circulation has been laundered through so many GDKPs that it is basically impossible to remove without harming innocent people.
The damage is done, they just need to do tokens as much as I hate saying that. There is no other way to deflate the economy.
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I’m all for WoW tokens. I think your other ideas are anti-democratic.
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Or, Blizz could just be the gold seller and make everyone happy.
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They aren’t putting a cap/restriction on what is brought over because they realize they let it go too far. People would be in a furious outrage if you took away their ‘easy gold’.
No one had that much at original Vanilla. Old forum posts report that Epic Mounts were rare and only the high end raiders could boast 5,000g sometimes.
Yes, people have knowledge on their side this time, to know which items to farm, which are valuable and which aren’t. This should be the natural increase of gold we are seeing.
Another part is the people who enjoyed Vanilla in their youth are adults now, outside of being smarter with farming, some of them are saving time with their wallets by skipping the line and buying gold.
Gold has also gotten out of hand because of the new surge of GDKP popularity. GDKP on paper is fine. Bidding with your own farmed gold you’ve earned is pretty legit. Except those who buy gold clean house in GDKPs and then that cut of laundered gold gets dispersed.
People found GDKPs to be easy money, especially when they already have the gear to carry the raid. So much of that dirty gold has been circulated back into player pockets, increasing the average player gold amount.
Not to mention abusing the no AoE cap of Mage boosting, using that gold or buying gold to level characters quickly by afking in dungeons.
Mages have become a Gold Farmer favorite. Boost AFKers, get quick gold.
Classic WoW was abused to death and the changes coming to TBC are proof that they have learned from that social experiment and I hope they continue to make certain changes for the future health of the game.
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I would strongly prefer they just nuke everyone’s gold and make it so you can only take like, 1000 gold with you and limited trade items / reagents.
Which probably won’t happen.
If they don’t do something about it then I hope they’ll add WoWTokens. If they’re true to their mantra of ‘leave no one behind.’ and ‘exclude no one’ this is probably the best way to cater to everyone, without physically taking things away from people.
Again I absolutely hate the idea of tokens in classic/TBC but the gold is just soo flippin sticky at this point that it’s just too far gone to do anything about without it being drastic.
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Yup. Interesting, the EVE Online people are doing that right now: they cranked down all the ISK (a.k.a. gold) faucets and did some other things to drain the economy a bit. This has gone on for a few months now.
It’s pretty rough and it definitely is hurting the non-rich folks but its something that needs to be done for the good of the game.
The only deflationary tactic I could see them doing is to take over the bot accounts, and sell the mats the bots have at market value. Then once those items are sold, delete the account, and thereby the gold.
They would literally have to fight fire with fire and fight the bots with bots.
Nope. Just the people who can’t be arsed to play the game. Won’t do a thing for bots/hacks/exploits or RMT.
BAN THE GOLD BUYERS. BAN THE GOLD SELLERS. BAN THE BOTS. There. Everyone’s happy. Except the lazy.
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I like your style! Make an example out of them (gold buyers). You’ll never get rid of it completely but please put the fear into these cheats. You would dissuade 90%+ of potential buyers with 1 high profile banning. When the buyers go away the sellers go away.
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