TBC is a better version of wow. Suggest adding

In my opinion, TBC is literally a better designed game than retail wow in pretty much every gameplay respect. Combat feels better, your character’s impact, weapon swings, procs, and buttons instantly are representative and felt on the target. Crafting actually matters. The aesthetics are prettier.
You have already added a boost, store mounts, abilities, toys, visuals, graphics. the game is different and i would say for the better having played the original TBC. the changes have been good. But why stop short of obvious other upgrades its missing then?
What its missing:
-Transmog is huge. Theres literally zero downside to transmog except for hardcore pvpers complaining they cant tell what gear an opponent has visually, which isnt an argument. The gear has to be obtained, made, earned in order to transmog and you deserve that visual right to show you got thunderfury or dreadnaught gear or whatever else you want to show. This would add so much content by itself and make gear progression much more enjoyable to both work hard to get the newest coolest looking gear and to farm old content for the many people who love the classic patterns and want to retain those. I know a lot of people who keep old gear just because it looks better in leu of an upgrade. looking cool is 99% the point of an mmo. Thats why your store mount sold so well and why everyone has or wants thunder fury and the main carrot on the stick for a lot of people to get the best gear, cause it usually looks the coolest. looking stupid isnt fun, let us look cool.
-Barber! I cannot imagine any counter argument at all for adding a barber to classic TBC. Its that simple… its a no brainer 100% upgrade to the game that will allow for higher player satisfaction. again, looking cool is the game.
-LFG tool. Either a full on group finder or at minimum a LFG tool that makes it easy to find and fill groups. Spamming in 4:lookingforgroup is NOT player interaction, its not emersive, its not fun, its not social, its mind numbing and needless spam waiting for someone to say “ill come.” I can see the automatic teleport being argued against but a tool like retail has where you can look up groups to join is a 100% win and is the same exact thing without the needless spam.
in my opinion and these are 100% universal upgrades to the game that are worth adding in a future patch. The only argument against any of them is simply “thats not how it used to be.” the game already isnt how it used to be, for the better, so why not continue to make it better with common sense upgrades.
classic andys would complain but the vast majority of people who love these changes.

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and gender change

retail=bad classic=good is room temperature IQ. just fyi, every single MMO on the market has these features, not just retail wow. they arent retail features, they are modern MMO features.
notice how you didnt have any sort of counter argument and you just tried to insult me instead of having a reason why these wouldnt make the game better.

Transmog… no… people will be rolling on things to transmog them instead of sharding/vendor

Lfg tool (the retail one), nah, I like the spam, it makes me feel comfortable kind of like having the TV on when I’m going to sleep

Group finder … absolutely not and I play a rogue

But you can have the barber

Also my response was purely in reaction to you saying classic Andy… big brain high Iq internet man… also IMHO pretty much every modern mmo on the market is trash… eso , FF, retail wow, all garbage.

tldr delete please

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Why stop short? Why start? The game is great as it is. There no need to add other stuff from retail.

just appearance/gender change would be nice

why does it matter what people roll on? theres master looter in the game. theres no reason any raid shouldnt be in master looter. if it is, thats your fault for having a bad group.

Just to put feedback on a few of your points.

  1. Transmog isn’t just disliked by those who are in favor of PVP but those who care for the RPG aspect of the game. One of the biggest problems WoW has had is that every expansion serves as an art “reset” so to speak. In most RPGs you start out with very boring mundane looking gear and slowly progress up until you look like a badass. The gear is meant to reflect that power scaling and sense of progression. Since WoW can’t hope to always make something more epic with every tier than the last they have to do a sort of soft reset with each expansion. One of the points of the gear progression is to show the time and effort a player has put into the game. If they are wearing really high end gear that means they are doing high end content. It’s the same with people seeking out rare mounts or titles as a way to distinguish themselves.
    The problem coming in with transmog is that this entire gear progression system is now completely lost. People are able to have absolutely terrible gear yet still look amazing as they went back and soloed content from previous expansions and used it for transmog.

  2. Once again the barber shop does have a bit of the RPG element removed. On this one I am more flexible though however as people would realistically do certain things at a barber shop even back in medieval times (which is what WoW’s fantasy mostly looks like) Things like Haircuts & Piercing would be completely fine but all the plastic surgery options they added in later don’t fit in with the fantasy of the setting.

I shouldn’t have to run master loot in dungeons so some shirtless Mong can roll on weapons he doesn’t need

Thank god this stuff you are asking for isn’t in the game

Role-playing aspect? how is transmog anything but a 100% upgrade to role playing. if youre roleplaying, you can change your clothes in real life. warriors didnt always wear the same armor in battle. what if you want to look like a farmer warrior? if a player wants to show off their high end gear, why is it not their choice to do so if its a role-playing element?
gear progression isnt lost at all when you add transmog because you have to have earned that gear to wear it. you cannot have terrible gear but look amazing. unless youre saying older sets look better than newer ones which is also contrary because they will still want to progress current gear to do current content for stats. so youre saying looks are the only thing that matter and thats the only reason to progress gear, which further helps my point that looks matter. Also, youre saying that someone who worked really hard for thunderfury or naxx gear cant show off that achievement anymore because its TBC… also contrary to your point.
and as far as “plastic surgery” is concerned, we can turn people into sheep in this game. people can turn into wolves and cats and bears and walking owls… pretty sure changing cosmetic features of your body is perfectly on par with any of the RPG elements in this game. in fact, your point again, made my point even stronger haha.

Realism role-playing not “I want to look like I am wearing godly armor yet actually be wearing garbage” Also “Earning gear” means very little when you didn’t have to earn it as current content. If the raids were still just as hard as they were back doing them at level cap then yes the gear progression would be a thing but they aren’t.

Also I never said looks are the only thing that matters. I just think the looks should match the quality of the gear. If you wear crap gear your gear should look like junk and vice versa as this makes sense from a role-play perspective of realism. A Knight wearing cheap armor would look far less impressive than a Knight in full plate armor. The higher quality armor inherently looks nicer as that’s the way our brains are programmed.

For the barbershop those are temporary magic spells and the barbershop is clearly a physical alteration to your character which is based on technology not magic.

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my man, you do know they can ninja anything they want now, right? they do that stuff right now except people literally roll on anything they can equip just so they can vendor it haha… and who cares about dungeon loot? what do you do now? go around and inspect everyone’s gear in your groups and write it all down to make sure they only roll on upgrades?

If someone joins the group that is in direct competition with me for gear the first thing I’m going to do is inspect them to see if they also need what I need.

Adding transmog would 100% increase the prevalence of people rolling on things that they don’t actually need.

Yes there are ninjas but this is just giving someone a reason to roll on something that simply did not exist in actual TBC. Transmog is probably the only good thing about retail wow and I completely oppose adding it to TBC.

no, go play some barbie dressup game. transmog is stupid, and so is the barber.

yes, so maybe stop trying to add retail things to TBC.

It severely degrades the ‘reward’ of getting new gear, every single piece becomes a stat stick. And yes, other people being able to tell you have awesome sh*t is good.

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Uh… I question your sanity. Is retail combat perfect? No, they screwed it up starting in wod, but TBC combat is still worse.

this is how retail babies frame everything. they say what they want has “no downsides” while ignoring every downside people bring up, and then act like anyone who doesn’t want their stupid little feature is a troll because only a troll would be against something with “no downsides”. :roll_eyes:

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Retail randy for you

wait so you disagree with transmog because they might get naxx gear now and youll think theyre a really good player but they arent? haha. you wouldnt think to inspect them and see what kind of gear they have on now? im not even sure what point youre trying to make. gear progression is primarily based on stats, not looks. the only way what youre saying makes any sense is if youre saying progression is soley based on looks?
or are you trying to say the people who earned the gear when it was current are the only ones that should be able to use it? but youre also saying they cant use it cause its not current haha.
and are you literally trying to rationalize the difference between “technology based and magic based” when youre playing a fantasy game where your chosen job in the game as a priest is to heal people and you can bring them back from the dead? haha.