Have been leveling my HM Druid with some dungeons (Wrath ones) and had a couple of DPS that would try to rush things. They failed miserably because I was helping the tank, who had no heirlooms and had never done the dungeon. That, and I refused to heal them, even told them “if they want to pull by themselves they can kill it by themselves.”
One rage quit, the other fell in line and followed the tank. so, please let the tank pull, sometimes they’re new to the game or new to the role, so let them learn.
I’ve always like the saying for people like this, you spank it, you tank it… no help, no heals, no nothing while the rest of the group continues to move forward.
But, in some situations when communication is there (rarely), if the heals can handle a big pull, I say let the tank know (nicely, not in ebonics or acronyms) and let the tank test drive the skills of a good healer.
Who sets the pace? The puller. Doesn’t matter if that’s tank or if that’s DPS.
If tanks fails to tank what’s pulled, guess what happens? Tanks fails as tank and DPS dies and Run gets slower.
What does DPS lose? Trivial amount of repair. And everyone gets slower run.
Until certain type of arrogant tanks figure out that they are all in it together, and just tank pulls, instead of being self righteous and wasting everyone’s time by being vindictive, you should keep pulling.
Typically once queue gets long, some melee DPS swap to tank. Those players, after being in the position of DPs before, pulls way faster and push their under geared tank far closer to the limit of it’s ability than some professional tanks.
I never ever blame a fast tank over pulling into a wipe. When pushing performance to limit. Sometimes things happen.
Non end-game content? Shrug, wouldn’t think it’s worth posting - isn’t that like a “few days temporary situation”? And it has always been a circus of incompetence, dps stinks, tanks stink, healers stink… it is what it is.
I’m sorry op but you’re wrong. It is ESPECIALLY important to let the tank set the pace in leveling/ heroic dungeons, because those are where new tanks are learning and if you screw it up for them they’re less likely to want to continue tanking.
Impatient dps are why we have a tank shortage. Dont contribute to the problem
You’re welcome to go look around. Not sure why anyone would care that much. I forgot that I had hidden my profile to slow people like you down. Hahaha enjoy it though, for what ever it’s worth.
(Oh wow people actually flagged you down. XD (FYI, I wasn’t one of them))
If someone other than the tank pulls, they don’t have threat, the mobs aren’t properly positioned, the damage is spread over multiple people instead of an individual so the healer’s not prepared, the tank’s cds might be a few seconds away.
Bad things happen when the tank isn’t the one to pull, so it has to be on them. And that means that they set the pace.
The day I replaced the piece, some one had driven the AH enchant prices up by an insane amount (Like 100K+) and I figured;
1: I might end up replacing it sooner or later.
2: I don’t really care, because I’ve been casual for so long
3: It was one of the 2 enchant types that wasn’t overpriced at that time.
AND you will be kicked on any alt tank im leveling. I know how strong my tank chars are and how much I can pull. You do not set the pace, as DPS. Your job is to pewpew and sit and color. Don’t want to do that? Well you are a DK. roll blood, and tank. Otherwise, be a good glass canon and pewpew.
Also guess what will happen if its you running ahead of everyone pulling, and the tank keeping with everyone and doing their job, and coming to a vote of who to kick. It is you and expendable and dime a dozen DPS with delusions of grandeur, and the Tank doing his job, going a pace he feels comfortable with him and heals capacity, and going on. Ten bucks says the dime a dozen DPS replaced in 2 seconds of queuing, will be going bye bye.
