Tanks "healing" more than Healers is bad game design

[Serivahn-proudmoore]

@Hralm-thrall

What we’re telling you is that you’re not healing because there’s nothing to heal, mate. It’s that simple. Whether or not people tell you to “heal better” is irrelevant. It’s math. If people aren’t taking that much damage from middling key mechanics, there’s only so much damage to heal since overhealing isn’t included in HPS tracking

Yes. Obviously. That is the entire point. Why are you saying this like that is not what I meant? What is wrong with you?

@Hralm-thrall

At your level, that’s not a necessity, and as a result, it’s going to be able to just be rolled flat over by anyone with enough gear that doesn’t stand in effects habitually.

Yes. And that is the point. Stuff below +20s is boring, and the game design is lacking and not making healing game-play fulfilling during the M+ climb. That is precisely what I’m saying… WTF?
I was a returning player, was at my first vault reward when I made this thread describing what I saw during the climb all up to +17s - +18s.

@Hralm-thrall

There isn’t an issue with healers, there’s an issue with your satisfaction with the content you’re doing. Point-blank. If you wanna come on here to whimper aloud in the hopes of finding an echo chamber, that’s not gonna happen

How you can say that:
“you’re doing keys in the mid-to-high teens (+17s/+18s by the way). You could do those keys at 400 ilvl cross-eyed, monitor off, and one hand tied behind your back. There is almost no fatal mechanics and everything can be healed off.”

Not a problem? Really?

@Hralm-thrall

I don’t know how much clearer it has to be. Maybe you just don’t like healing.

Perfectly clear, you’re a big ambulant contradiction. One time you said that healers can do +17s/+18s with the monitor off, next you say that there is not a single problem in the healing design. What are you? A clown?

[Hralm-thrall]

Except OP was literally all whine, no nuance. If you want to shift the goalposts and point out a more specific complaint, fine, but the issue you’re taking is that easy content is easy, and you find easy content unfulfilling. I agree, that’s why I prefer mythic raiding and trying to push IO as hard as I can when the desire strikes me.

You want me to complain about Heroic and Normal because they’re too easy? The vast majority of players still find it challenging. Just doing 15s put you in the top 10% of player skill, FYI.

Like ??? dawg, you sure I’m the one that’s contradictory?

Literally just go do 20s and up, you’ll be happier for it.

[Raven-atiesh]

@Abendroth-zuljin

Not all tanks can do it, and those that do literally has their design around self heals because they can’t block.

How can you say this while posting on a paladin…

[Abendroth-zuljin (Abendroth)]

What do you mean, my self heals are way below that of a dk or a monk or a druid. The only thing I got going for me is that I can heal others as well.

[Serivahn-proudmoore]

@Hralm-thrall

Like ??? dawg, you sure I’m the one that’s contradictory?

Yes, I’m sure. You said that healers can heal content below +20s with the monitor off, and also said that there is not a single problem with the current M+ healing design.
You don’t understand your contradiction because you lack cognitive ability.

[Burkkins-moon-guard]

@Hralm-thrall

If they legitimately died to just AOE pulses then it’s a healing output issue, likely coupled with DPS not pressing personal CDs to mitigate hits, as many DPS are wont to do at that key level.

Some of those AoE pulses are interruptable, like worms in Underrot. It baffles me to join a 16 for easy crests and see dps not interrupting the worm channel, taking several full aoe hits.

And that’s after I used my hoj and interrupt already.

[Hralm-thrall]

@Serivahn-proudmoore

Yes, I’m sure. You said that healers can heal content below +20s with the monitor off, and also said that there is not a single problem with the current M+ healing design.

ITT

I’m done, this dude is just here to complain about something that doesn’t exist while playing the most meta spec in the most mediocre keys.

[Stinkyxpinky-ysondre]

Getting the same boots in the vault 3/5 last weeks is bad game design, The other 2 weeks? head slot! is there no protection against this?

[Akston-area-52]

The “protection” is opening up more than 1 vault slot.

If you have 6 slots, for example. the odds of you being stuck with the same boots every week is pretty low since you have 5 other slots to RNG.