you do realize everyone else is taking about queued content and not the content that you’re talking about right? you’ve even been arguing with meritha about how toxic she is because she said that if less tanks queue than dps that then groups don’t form. you may be a mythic raider but 99% of us are lfd heroes. please talk about what is actually being talked about.
Then I guess the fix is to not even queue for it ? Why are you queueing for content in BfA ?
World Quests drop better gear than queued content. We’re talking about Lack of tanks, that impacts Pugs for Mythic+ and pug raids at the normal/heroic level.
Heroic dungeons, lmao, there’s no tanks for those because there’s no reason to even do them in the first place.
Absolutely not.
When I’m tanking I don’t skip anything that’s not avoided by default because that’s a recipe for trouble (somebody will screw the skip up). My only “rules” if they can even be called that are to not pull ahead and to wait for healer mana. That’s it.
because it’s fun and not all of us are mythic raid level people and actually enjoy things like lfd and lfr? why do you think it exists? major duh moment.
Agreed. I don’t want to make another avenue available that gets morphed into a required avenue.
Mythic 0s require as much Mythic raid level experience as cooking up Kraft Mac and Cheese does.
Yep, I will ask tanks not to skip because when they do it ends up taking longer because you end up with a bunch of stuff you hadn’t intended to handle and people die. Just pull it and kill it.
the dungeons this expansion in general are too hard for me on mythic. legion dungeons i did a lot more. even did a +5 on my pally. they’ve ruined dungeons this expansion because they’ve made them for mythic+ and not to be good dungeons.
I do them for CTAs and because they’re fun, easy, group content that I have learned some stuff from, practice pull positioning, and meet some cool people in. They’re definitely not high-yield content wrt loot, that’s true, but they still have a purpose for some.
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i’ll just point out again that people are talking about queueable content and not mythic+ or “real” raiding. jesus.
I would be a lot more into M+ if I could do solo practice the affixes (using AI party members maybe) at various + levels. I don’t care to learn in an environment where my screwups can end up costing my party members anything.
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then you’ve never done m+. Because pulling everything takes longer and just waste too much time
i understand. i did dungeons a lot in legion and had fun with it. but now if i wanna do a dungeon i queue for a heroic. sometimes when i finish leveling a toon i don’t send them benthic and then instead do the normal then heroic dungeon grind. because i really do enjoy doing dungeons.
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT QUEUES NOT MYTHIC+ do you “elite” players not understand that what you’re talking about has nothing to do with what this thread is about?
“Tanks - design ways to get more people to tank”
Title says it all.
I get extremely annoyed with this when im tanking. From my anecdotal experience 9/10 the person that body pulled took zero liberties to evade the mob like the rest of the party.
Yep, we all wall-hugged to get around this pack. Im sure you’ll be okay just running off the wall within 10 yards of them! 
Even in upper level mythics I’ve found expecting players to have even a modicum of situational awareness is expecting too much.
No. People will just immediately decline you based on some outside of the game built metric that has jack all to do with your ability to do the content. There’s a lot of reasons people don’t tank. I enjoy it myself and have been doing it since ToCR. I always suspected it’s a mix of having to keep an eye on threat and worry about mechanics that aren’t based on move away from bad circles on the ground. I’m probably wrong but that’s what I always thought. A lot of the dps people probably zone out a bit too much to keep remembering to switch the entire fight so stacks of whatever fall off, or to switch every time Barnacle Bash/Tidefist comes up. It’d be nice if Blizzard did a poll so we could see just how many reasons there are behind it.
in raiding there’s already too much tanks. you guys also know this. this problem exists entirely for queuable content. don’t be silly.