You could be right, where’s the metrics to back that up?
Healers complaining for years about not needing to heal and being expected to DPS. They got their wish and seem to regret it.
Do you honestly think any PUG DPS will wait and hold off their dps until the tank has decent aggro? Do you really think they’ll use a threat dump spell? They don’t even use their own defensives as it is.
A lot of dps didn’t even take their interrupt. And most charge in or have a cast going while you’re running up to the mob. The second you touch it, they’ve used their CD’s.
There’s no way the majority of non-planned groups are going to sit there twiddling their thumbs waiting for a tank to get aggro.
This isn’t Vanilla/TBC anymore. This is the era of impatient people who refuse to do anything that benefits someone else if it means they can’t try to top the charts right this second.
I get it, you’re a tank and don’t want to see the game go back to how it’s typically been. So shift the focus on how it’s deserved due to your constant oppression by the hands of the evil healers and dps.
Ah, out of actual arguments so you’ve moved on to personal attacks. Classic.
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Yes that is a problem. Many mobs do massive aoe damage and it’s hard to see, let alone avoid, when a tank has 3-4 batches at once.
Although… having done a few mythic keys, balancing is going to require more than tank nerfs.
It’s still not in a good place right now, and it’s not fun to get yanked along a dungeon with a tank over-zealously pulling to get it done with ASAP.
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All you have done is attack, you have not made one argument. Then when I point that out I’m attacking you, interesting.
I play almost exclusively DPS and tanks being super strong is only a good thing for the game I don’t know why people want them nerfed. Who cares if they basically don’t die, now healers can be supports rather than having to tunnel vision the tank.
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Look at it like this: if dps could just chain pull and kill packs before the tank even engaged or could care less about them mobs dmg and just didnt even notice if the tank was there or not would tanks be having fun then?
Because that seems to essentially be the situation many are describing where tanks are basically soloing the dungeons. I haven’t got to try DF yet but the way some of these posts describe tanks I actually wonder if 5 tank groups might be viable. ESP 5 prot wars
Please quote any instance of me making personal attacks at you like you just did to me.
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Y’all need to quit whining about tanks to op or whatever. If you pug you already know 99 percent of dps and healers ain’t never happy when they go slower everyone else starts pulling when there going fast if someone in the group dies it’s the tanks fault lol.
Why?
You are not interested in having a conversation about this issue. You avoid almost everything I say to pull whatever narrative you are looking for. Case in point, you missed that I never said you were making personal attacks. I just said you’re attacking.
But, here is an example:
^^^^^ that’s just as you quoted it, not even close to what I posted
You are not making an argument here. You are just pointing the finger at something that may not even have any real truth to it ( or twisting a truth, I remember the threads debating healer dps, it had nothing to do with lack of healing required ) to attack my ideas, while avoiding the ideas as you just cherry pick a small part of what I post.
I haven’t seen many healers complaining about not having anything to do since hitting DF dungeons. There truly wasn’t enough to heal in dungeons in BFA and SL. Blizzard changed that in DF in a big way.
To make it clear, I am not complaining about that change. I love that there is a lot to heal, I hated being measured solely by how much damage I could deal when I queued to heal a key. The problem as far as I’m concerned isn’t with this change.
The problem is that because the tank takes such a little percentage of that damage, they can pull as recklessly at they want even to the point where even good healers can’t keep up with the amount of damage going out. While tanks could do this in previous expansions, they usually felt the weight of the decision once their healer and group died and they started running out of self-sustain. That last part simply doesn’t happen until you start pushing into keys. Then throw in the fact that most healers can’t really heal while on the run and you will oftentimes lose people on the move to wherever the tank decided to stop.
M0 the second you hit max level should not be trivial content. Again, this may be an issue with that content and not the power level of the group, but that balance is out of whack.
I’m fine if a freshly max level tank can pull the entire damn room in an M0 even if that would be impossible in a +15, but only while their group is contributing to the pull. A tank who is in questing greens from having hit 70 2 minutes ago should not be able to survive a pull that got their healer and DPS killed.
In that M0, if the tank or someone fine with them way the tank is pulling is the leader you can’t kick them.
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Stop whining
Most people on these posts are explaining why tanks are getting nerfed >.> These threads are about tanks complaining. So self apply your comment.
Edit: Blizzard nerfed tanks, not DPS, not Heals. They don’t actually listen to players, lol.
Looks at patch notes today and sees no nerfs at all weird, only crying I see is from you and your kind. Bunch of babies. I’ll keep tanking though, you just wont be in the groups.
What are you talking about? Tanks have already been nerfed. It happened last week. I’m glad I’m not in your group, buddy.
Oh no a 10% damage reduction nerf a week ago… Such a loser
Lol, so salty.
Yes, you are and its really weird. “OH NO WE CANT LET THE TANKS HAVE FUN”
Literally every post in here is you or some other DPS crying for nerfs that arent coming then your only evidence of them is one from over a week ago that was a nothing burger. Thats your big nerf.
You’re a sad little person. I’m sure all your friends that don’t exist just love being around you.
Dude, I barely said anything and you’re on a paragraph of rage. Have a good one 