Tank Shortage - Solution?

I sat and watched group after group after group ask for a tank last night. I’m a tank. I ignored them because I don’t plan to run BF on repeat. I’d like to run ramparts too. I’d like to do my quests and the group quests.

The expansion has been live for 24 hours and people are acting like they have to be 70 this weekend.

Even if we had dual spec, there are many tanks I’ve talked to out in the world that get tired of being rushed and have other stuff they want to do to (healers included). People just need to chill a bit.

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Raiding is very different to dungeons though. Raid tanking is boring as hell. You sit there and get whacked by the boss until the DPS kill it.

Dungeon tanking is far more interesting because you’re managing multiple mobs as well as creating a path through the dungeon. It’s why M+ is very enjoyable for tanks, and raids are not.

By far the most enjoyable raid to tank in TBC will be Zul’Aman, which was essentially the first Mythic+ Dungeon. It had a lot of trash with abilities to be managed, and the efficiency of how you tanked it led directly to better rewards for your group. (Executioner run for Shattered Halls to a lesser extent too, but Zul’aman with a timer to hit for each boss and the bear mount reward for succeeding was the first time that you actually really cared how good your tank was in a raid).

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The real issue is that even if you had dual spec, what would you actually respec to in a raid?

All of the DPS specs that tanks can respec to in TBC are awful, and that situation did not change until WOTLK when Blizzard finally realised that DPS specs should be somewhat balanced.

So it’s not really that people don’t want to tank, it’s that people don’t want to play the classes that are capable of tanking.

It was really, really easy to find tanks early on in Classic because half the server played Warrior. Of course it became harder to find tanks for dungeons once everyone hit 60, but it wasn’t hard at all if you were leveling at Classic launch.

I don’t raid or push that hard. So, I can only answer that personally. For me, I run dungeons and help guildies, do quests… we’ll probably mess around in heroics and Kara will likely be the extent of my raiding. As a druid, for my purposes, cat and bear overlap enough that it doesn’t matter. I wouldn’t even get dual spec because I can’t stand keeping up with two sets of gear lol.

Even if all specs were great and wonderful, I wouldn’t do it because of that. It’s a pain in the butt, and I don’t care for the attitudes that come with dual spec where people start telling people to change spec only to meet their desires instead of leveling a spec they know is needed. Not everybody does it, but my experience has been that it’s always a pure dps player that wants to tell somebody else to respec.

Oh well. I don’t know lol. I guess I could dual spec so I could dance as a tree or owlbear :smiley:

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The problem is that it doesn’t really matter how you spec. If you play a DPS druid, warrior or Paladin, you’ll be bad. Because those specs are just bad no matter how you spec them.

This situation basically went away in WOTLK but was still very much the case in TBC.

They are never going to spend the money to have developers write the code for dual specs just to rip it out in 18 to 24 months when Wrath comes out.

It is simply ridiculous to think that they would be open to doing this.

Oh well. Somebody has to be at the bottom. May as well be somebody like me that can at least follow directions lol :smiley:

What, lol?

TBC Classic uses the modern client. The code is already in the game. All they have to do is enable it.

However it just wouldnt help very much. There isn’t really anything that tanks would want to respec to, although it would at least help people who wanted to tank not have such a hard time questing.

The issue remains the same, if you roll a tank class, then there is no raid spot for you, so why would anyone want to roll a tank class in a game where dungeons are irrelevant after the first 2 weeks?

It’s hard to find tanks because dungeons are not end game content, and people choose their class based on what they want to do in end game. Which in TBC means raiding. All those people who played fury warrior in Classic have rerolled to Warlocks and Hunters for TBC.

It came out in LK (Edit: But it was also 1,000g, so I’d like to see it implemented just to see some of these broke people’s jaws hit the floor and then they complain that it shouldn’t cost so much lol. You know they would lol.)

“All they have to do us enable it” lol

Yes.

Just like cross realm grouping (which they already enabled by accident) and everything else in retail, the code is already there. They would just have to implement it. It wouldn’t be hard. But people like to pretend that they don’t want changes.

i would totally switch to tanking if they had dual spec. so when im done tanking, BAM! back to ret…#JS

So far for normal dungeons I’ve just tanked as fury with 3 points in prot to increase bloodthirst threat and put on a shield.

Been fine so far.

Would your healer say the same thing?

Probably?

We cleared it without issues. Most packs he didn’t go below half mana (I keep him on focus to watch).

One of the runs the healer was an elemental shaman (he was dropping the 41 pt ele totem) and even that run was fine.

I’ll probably go prot at 70 for heroic dungeons, but so far normals just aren’t that hard.

I think ele is arguably better than resto for healing leveling dungeons (in a caster group) because totem of wrath is so powerful. By level 62 you can have both totem of wrath and ancestral healing.

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Yes because it’s a normal dungeon for leveling lol. You do not need to be a tank spec to tank them. You don’t need to be a healing spec to heal them either.

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Why would they rip it out for the expansion that added dual spec in the first place?

it just wouldn’t be TBC anymore at that point…

That’s why I exist m