A huge number are the same people. That you don’t like retail or that I don’t like retail doesn’t mean that there isn’t a massive crossover. Furthermore, even the people who “like” retail don’t really seem to like retail.
You can have fun however you want. Nobody is taking away the LFG channel; you’re free to use it as you wish. If, however, you don’t want the LFG tool implemented because it would stop people from USING the LFG channel, that speaks volumes; it means that you want to withold it from us because your way is more important than ours.
It is very similar to the people crying for no flying, when they had full access to ground mounts the entire time. If people don’t want to play your way and the only way you can make them is to force them, what do you think is the appropriate outcome?
Because as I have said many times, to you specifically, I don’t like retail. I like BC, with features from retail. Go back to retail is absolutely meant as an insult, and you pretending it isn’t is absolutely facetious.
Classic had major issues. Many of them were fixed over time. Because “your” way is the current status quo makes it no more valuable or intrinsically “default” than my way. You accuse me of decrying you for having fun “the wrong way” but do the exact same back to me.
I don’t want retail. I want BC, with better tools. Your reply to me is “go back to retail”, which is stupid, since I don’t want retail. Engage with the actual content of the discussion, rather than an off-hand dismissal that doubles as an insult. What I want doesn’t exist in retail. It can exist in BC.
i would like to tank in the tbc lvling dungeons and later heroics but i dont want to spend my gold respeccing every time i want to switch roles so yeah dual spec would at least add 1 more tank in the pool
If it wasn’t true, why doesn’t anyone want to play retail?
You want a LFG interface.
Someone else wants dual spec
Another person wants cross realm grouping
That guy wants race/faction change
This person wants pve - pvp transfer
Someone else wants vote to kick
Another person wants modern character models
Auto grouping and dungeon teleport
More then one paid boost
The LFR system
Transmog gear
Let’s take everything that everyone wants and put it in TBC classic.
From retail, I like:
LFG
Art style
LFD
All specs are (relatively speaking) functional
Performence enhancements (eg: continuous energy/mana gain rather than by tick)
I dislike:
Endless grinds with no end goal
Storyline gating
M+ endless treadmill
4 raid difficulties
PvP is a complete farce
World quests are awful
Reputation is meaningless
Progression is completely reset every tier
Specs are completely separated from each other, almost nothing of class shared identity remains
Broadly speaking, I dislike almost everything about retail besides its UI and gameplay, which remains buttery smooth. If you could take everything about TBC and drop it into the framework of retail, I’d be happy.
These things cannot be replicated by addons. But, I’ll settle for LFG, which is little more than a significantly upgraded parser for the garbage tier channel that already exists.
some stuff would be good and not break anyone else fun with tbc, the tool to be able to form groups, the lfg interface not the tool to teleport to dungeons would be one of the few good things that i would like in tbc, if making groups easiers is breaking your immersion then i don’t know what to say because i’ll keep the insulting stuff i would say to myself lol
Slippery Slope Fallacy. I understand the point YOU think you’re making. You’re not, though. There is a very clear and obvious difference between a UI enhancement that improves an already existing game function, and a completely different core mechanic for the endgame. The two are not remotely comparable. None of the things you tried to analogise are analogies.
We already have a real life example of the slippery slope- and you don’t like it. It’s called retail.
I guess you just won’t accept that the changes won’t stop with just the ones you like.
Because other people want other things and they are just as important as you. And if you get annoyed and tell them to stop changing things, you are wrong.
And if you bug and plead and ask repeatedly for the game you want to be made, and the company does it, you are also wrong for being upset that people who don’t want what you want come play the game you want and ask for changes.
No, we don’t. There is no evidence whatsoever that any one specific part of retail has anything to do with any other. You only know the end result of the amalgamated effect of all of those things being added together.
