Taliesin and 2h Frost continuation (and an apology to the OP from me too)

The armory links, numbers, and dates don’t lie… they are there for anyone to access…

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There is a poster on the shaman forums that needs to complain about enh, literally, every time it’s mentioned. I’ve seen threads where people just ignore him like a 3 y/o. A normal, adult conversation is happening, he throws in his 2c of negativity (usually not even pertaining to the discussion at hand), and everyone just breezes by his posts, continuing to talk as if he isn’t trying to ruin things. It’s pretty funny, because you see him struggling to get someone’s attention, but people just don’t want that mess, lol.

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Hey we have one like that over here on the DK forums too! lol

It honestly makes me wonder if it’s the same person… it wouldn’t surprise me at all.

Anyway good advice on ignoring them… we should probably do the same over here as well. That’s really the only way to deal with it, since Blizzard won’t add an ignore button on the forums here, we just have to do it ourselves.

:slightly_smiling_face:

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It is hard to not correct the obvious delusions people convince themselves is real, but not responding, while keeping up the conversation usually deflates them pretty quickly. We do the same thing to my 3 y/o after telling her to wait for the conversation to end. She usually continues to try to show me random things, or say she broke her head, or something along those lines. Works for her too, though I feel like SHE is learning the lesson of manners, while the others just remain stuck, a 3 y/o in a 40 y/o body.

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Truer Words have never been spoken…

So in the spirit of getting things back on topic, how do you as a Shaman feel about losing 2H for Enhancement? The majority of Death Knights over here miss 2H Frost tremendously.

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Hey, it was an apology in case I got it locked. That shouldn’t be a reason to lock it. And for both Draith and Magicke, knock it off please. It’s starting to get annoying having to see this endless argument. Even if Draith wanted to point out the truth, I don’t think it’s worth it at all at this point sadly enough. Sorry man.

You don’t have to be sorry man, it’s all good. I get it.

I was merely providing the available information to back up the FACTS of what was happening. It was an attempt to get someone to take accountability and responsibility for their own actions. But I guess it didn’t work…some people lie so much that they start believing their own lies… it’s really sad.

Alas like I said before, you can’t make people change, some people choose to live their lives in a delusion. I guess ignoring them is the only true way to deal with them after all…

live and learn :slightly_smiling_face:

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what truth? dude is delusional if thinks any of that nonsense proves anything.

Yeah, that’s the trouble with delusion unfortunately enough. But like you said, we can’t get others to change, some choose to live that way. But we can still ignore them at least. Like you said also, live and learn. Thanks for all that too.

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Anytime man, hope you have a great day! :slightly_smiling_face::+1:t2:

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And its getting annoying how you are always talking crap about me which are all lies. You even continue to do it after being called out on it multiple times.

Hey, I was just trying to explain to you about what the topic was for, and the rest of that was NOT aimed at you at all. And you keep saying I’m the liar so many times, but you also ignore or try to keep parroting all sorts of stuff to render everyone’s arguments as nothing but BS if they ever support 2h Frost or Frostmourne. And I already saw my mistakes a few times, but they were either bugs in the game for some reason, or those weren’t lies at all, but how I thought things could work. I’m not gonna bother with you anymore though since I don’t want anything to do with you. All it does is give me a hard time instead of getting anywhere. Keep replying and trying to portray me as a lying bastard, but I’ll just say nothing to you, even if you try to reply to me when I mention your name alone.

Dont even mention my name, because whenever you do its a lie. “Kelliste is against 2h” blah blah blah. Its getting ridiculous. YOU are creating this hard time for yourself. No one else. Dont make lies up about people and there wouldnt be this drama and you wouldnt get stressed out.

And maybe, you should get better arguments and stop running with what are blatant retcons or “this is how I want the story to change so I get what I want.”

Frostmourne is done, and 2h, while Blizzard might want to do it, is done as well until they can figure out how it wont be a DPS loss or can make the 2h animations work on top of a DW which isnt part of the transmog system.

Clearly, nobody intends to do anything about the obvious problem starter so just flag them and don’t respond to their posts. And that person is not Kelliste.

Frostlich

Chill out. I know the disagreements and comprehension failure can get irritating, yet Kell is one of the few posters that engages in a mature dialogue.

Like when he says things like this:

My eyes roll back to the moon, but it is still a valid dialogue in spite of the polar disagreement. * Cough * 2Hisbetter * Cough *

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Yeah, good point. But I’m tired of her constantly calling me a liar, and just wanna be able to support 2h Frost in peace. But I need to stop bothering with these pointless arguments. It’s not worth it anyway.

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Idk how much any of you REALLY want 2h to return. There was a post on 2h frost in the class development and changes forum and ezactly ZERO people posted to support it.

All anyone on this thread seems to care about is thinking their opinion is the the most valid and arguing like children. If this is truly the audience that supports 2h frost, it deserves to die.

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The one for BFA Classes? It’s certainly not going to happen during BFA, so I don’t see why posting there over here would matter.

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I mean just look at this thread, it’s just people talking trash. Talking trash about someone on the shaman forums, trash talking other people on here saying they like their own posts with no evidense and it keeps going and going and going.

I’m going to defend myself, the flag system is flawed and posts need multiple flags to get any traction or if a Blizzard employee looks at it and shuts the thread because it turns into what you see here.

Posting here will not be seen by devs. If you want change, you need to make it continuously bisible. Posting there all throughout 8.2 and 8.3 would show the desire for change. Since this class forum is pracrically invisible, this discussion is iltimately pointless to get real change.

You’re sure of this how? Have they previously said they ignore class forums?

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