They were never onboard with the war. They opposed it from the beginning.
No, that’s exactly what he’s implying; that the foundation of the Old Horde was corrupt, Thrall forged a faction that wasn’t corrupt with Vol’jin carrying on Thrall’s leadership, and that Sylvanas was just going to bring it all back.
Neither were a case of widespread Horde corruption.
So this is different then the Man’ari joining the Alliance because…
There are a few individuals that survived. The tribe though is gone. There’s no movement. Genocide is the deliberate attempt to wipe out an ethnic group, the dwarves did that there, just didn’t get all of them. And they did that to steal their land.
The Alliance didn’t “accept” them, more so they are making them work off their sins.
It was no one’s land at the time, in fact I just checked, as per Cycle of Hatred all of the Barrens was suppose to be neutral territory. As a side note, the taurens were also helping the Horde kick the night elves out of their land.
They gave them the second chance to redeem themselves. So, do we give people second chances or not? Because if not, then the Horde should be destroyed.
Or maybe like the Man’ari they shouldn’t be glorifying an organization that has committed genocide and like the Legion let said organization join the dust bin of history.
The end of Warcraft 3 was the wild west of Warcraft, everyone took land from each other. Hell, the Horde wanted Quillboar land and took it. Regardless the Barrens were suppose to be neutral.
Cool. The New Horde never glorified what the old leaders of the Old Horde did, though.
Compared to the Man’ari, the Horde are saints. Not only have they proven good intent and will by betraying their Warchiefs for the sake of Azeroth, what they’ve done does not render the entire faction worthy of destruction.
The same guy that helped Thrall free the orcs from human enslavement so that Thrall could forge the New Horde? Thrall didn’t name Orgrimmar for Doomhammer because of what he did in the Old Horde, he did it because he was one of the key figures in redeeming and freeing the Orcs.
Talanji seemed to motivated by trying to unite the Troll tribes. There are no Trolls on Alliance. For a lot of years there was fighting amongst the tribes.
I also like the assumption that the Alliance wouldn’t have just tossed them in the stockades to rot if they came to them looking for help. I mean, if they were open to diplomacy they might have done the normal royal thing and kept them prisoner in nice accommodations.