I mean, his logic is that stealing a few boats and killing a few soldiers somehow means arthas was perfectly okay to purge an entire city of innocent civilians
Long as it’s team blue, he will try his best to justify any atrocity.
No and your lack of awareness is shockingly appalling.
The fact YOU claim its pefectly ok to kill and steal some boats for the greater good/because the Horde ultimately does more good is the exactly same logic of Arthas.
Which is funny considering you castigate him at every turn.
If you know me so well then you should know my stance on Arthas. I hate that he cause the fall of Lordaeron. Having said that, if Sylvanas gets a redemption so should he. And unlike Sylvanas fanatics I dont want him anywhere near the Alliance if he were to get one.
And on Stratholme in particularly, its pretty obvious that it was the wrong move. But he wasnt exactly given many good options.
I know the stake, but I find it stupid that you berated Arthas for his “sacrificing for the greater good” attitude only for you to turn around and say that is acceptable when team red does it.
We all know the real reason that you’re so hung up on a few boats and a couple soldiers is that the horde helped saved the world and you have nothing to use against that.
No at all. My amusement is in the fact for all your hatred of Arthas you are just as willing to use the “greater good” logic to excuse the crime of the Horde.
Speaking of lack of awareness, you’re still going on about the relatively small crime of stealing a few boats while going to bat for the much larger crime of the indefinite detention of a whole race for the sins of a few because you pretend eradication is the only other option.
said race had just tried to genocide an entire continent and even at that point several group were still attacking the Alliance from said race. 2) even if the Alliance wanted to, the race was already suffering from demonic leglthagry because they drank demon blood.
what exactly was your option that didnt risk they just attacking the Alliance again/joining these other orcish warband? 4) if you want to blame someone for it, why not blame the Forsaken considering they are the very same people who operated said camp/was the kingdom most responsible for it. Heck, the daughter of said king is even one of its leaders.
Yes, literally all the group, at least that the Alliance knew about, were fighting them. Probably the only ones not doing so were the Frostwolves but I dont even think they knew about them, hence why Thrall managed to get to them without being caught.
I would think it was a combination of the two.
Which one? The orcs?
Again, the orcs should blame their current allies for how they were treated. They were largely responsible for it.
tbf I still think the orc internment camps were less unjustified than the whole expansionist pograms against the Trolls, which only really stopped slowed due to WC1.
If the orcs deserve eradication, humans, dwarves, gnomes, and elves deserve the same because they’ve all absolutely done the exact same thing, just without the excuse of being manipulated into it by an external cosmic power.
What part of I want Arthas to pay for his crimes did you not get? But that if Sylvanas can be redeem so should he.
If this all I wanted then I would say the internment camps were the wrong choice and they entire orcish race should have been executed.
If the Alliance was not battered by enemies(like the remaining free orcs), dealing with dragons and its own internal problems maybe it would have had the resources to deal with the internment but that was not the state of the Alliance at the time.
We can always have another faction war and see who ends up afterwards?