Talanji should have asked both factions for aid instead of only one

Who said anything about arthas or Sylvanas and them being punished for their crimes? :rofl:

Because it wasn’t me. :stuck_out_tongue:

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You are the one talking about blond, blue eye humans, that would include Arthas

I’m making fun of your own obsession with defending and whitewashing the alliance at all costs

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So it’s tough so we have to keep doing the bad things because there’s no other alternatives to it than extermination.

And then we’ll condemn them and continue trying to exterminate them when they take themselves out of our hair.

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Haha, so funny. Oh, not your attempt. I am laughing at you.

You mean after they decided to steal and kill one last time?

That’s fine. You are a joke on this forum anyway

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Maybe they shouldn’t have been enslaving an entire race then if they didn’t want them to take whatever method they could to escape.

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The only joke I see is you.

What? The Alliance didnt want to enslave them at all. And they ended up having to imprison them because of their attempted genocide.

Sure bud. :rofl:

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Oh no, they didn’t want to do what they actually did.

Oh yes, toss out the G word to excuse anything they did wrong

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They literally didnt. They got dragged into a genocidal war. Even the original story had Lothar trying to parley with the Horde and getting killed for it.

The Allaince always had very strong opinions on other people doing genocide. Very against it, when they were the ones not doing it.

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The story has never once mentioned an Alliance lead genocide(well there is Daelin but he did that on his own without the rest of the Alliance support). The story however has mentioned multiple Horde ones.

Are you making the claim that nobody owned any of the the current Alliance homelands before they were claimed?

Or that there wasn’t an entire somewhat recent war started by Stormwind nobles trying to forcefully steal their southern neighbors lands?

e: oh wait, you defend a group of dwarves that massacred a town and laughed about it while referring to their victims as animals, you’re gonna duck or defend any instance of Alliance wrongdoing, like you always do.

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Kinda like how the forsaken got treated trying to parlay with the Alliance?

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Yes! As far as we know the humans/dwarves/gnomes had not instigated conflict and were on the receiving end of it. That they for the most part had settled in unihabited lands only to later to accosted by trolls or other species.

Kinda like how the Forsaken betrayed Garithos and his men?

Like how the planeteers betrayed Dr. Blight too

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The Elves did the exact same thing the Warsong did in WC3. Are the Warsong innocent then?

And hiding behind “oh we don’t know if the humans started it” when we do know they slaughtered their way down the continent is cowardly, since even if you were correct, it still would be genocide.

As for the Dwarves or Gnomes, look at where they awoke, and look at where their current capitols are. They absolutely walked in and tried to force out the inhabitants. There was all of the Loch Modan area or Wetlands available if they had wanted to live in peace.

(Also basically every living Nelf from the WOTA era was a happy participant in Azshara’s brutal empire until she turned on them and started working with the Legion)

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The Ice trolls lived there before the gnomes or dwarves arrived, the gnomes came first but struggled to survive in the harsh environment and trolls that didn’t like intruders, so dug deep to survive. Source Chronicle.
Then when the dwarves awoke they ventured to Dun morogh as well and they conquered the land from the trolls, forcing them high up into the mountains. Sources are the troll compendium and the warcraft townhall Beastiary.

So it’s not even speculation, it’s stated that the dwarves conquered the land from them.

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And for we know it was exactly like the Amani, the dwarves made a homes, the trolls attack them and got their butt whopped. That is basically what has happened thus far to the humans. Helll, the townhall go how it was “a blow to their warring nature” so I dont think they left the dwarves alone.

Intially? Sure, what happened with Grom could be considered self defense. Then we had 4 years of peace between the factions then Thrall turned a blind eye as the Outriders decided to keep attacking and stealing land and then Garrosh went even further.