Such a closed mind. Without changes wow would of been dead 10 years ago. I want a better future with fun content that fits the vanilla style. I think it would be a mistake just to do the exact same thing all over again or just create a server for people to gawk at for a few months then leave.
Your idea leads to death and mine has a possibility of leading us into a new and much better future for wow.
Screw burning crusade. Screw wrath. While cherish these expansions brought with them many mistakes that people are sick of.
Major troll post just like all the other Classic+ fanatics. Time to rain on your parade:
Read it and weep. The devs at Blizzard specifically mentioned TBC rather than ANY content post Naxx. Classic+ is a garbage idea and will not REMOTELY be as profitable.
Here is a wonderful comment from someone on that reddit thread linked in the above blue post.
"Every version of Classic+ Iâve seen is basically âGive me what I want and f*ck everything else about modern WoWâ⌠and thatâs not really reasonable at all because everyone wants different things. You could put a dozen âClassicâ fans into the room and you could not get anything everyone would agree on. You could create a list of features DONâT want (no flying, no LFR, etc), but getting people to agree on what they do want is an impossible task because people played vanilla WoW and want classic WoW for different reasons.
Not only that, Blizzard is not going to maintain two different dev teams for the same game. Thatâs just not practical even if that were a direction they considered going in. Right now the content schedule for modern WoW is justified by how many people consume the content regularly - even the most casual of players raid in LFR for instance. Youâre not going to see anything close to that return from a new dev team working on classic wow. Itâs a bad business decision.
Thereâs no solid arguments. Classic+ is ill-conceived, almost purely a desperation move from people who know that most people donât care to live in their nostalgia forever."
Sorry peepsâŚthemâs the breaks. Your choices are Classic, TBC, Wrath, or retail. When each of them get released of courseâŚthis will obviously be quite a few years down the road since people have to have time to clear Naxx and get all BiS gear first
Havenât noticed anything. Yeah I want them gone, but honestly I havenât been affected by them. Iâm aware people are abusing them to level up quickly or whatever, I donât really care. Doesnât affect me.
Honestly in my perfect dream world this would happen. Weâd get World of Warcraft 2 which would actually just be going back to classic and starting over from there while keeping the core of what made classic so special: Meaningful leveling, power progression, talent trees (yes, even if people number crunch them), server communities, a dangerous worldâŚ
The only things Iâd want from retail are pet tab, mount tab, bigger item stacks, new models (but only if toggleableâŚand let my poor undead priest keep her skull face ) and transmog. No heirlooms, dungeon finder, CRZ, anything that promotes a rushing âgo, go, goâ mentality or destroys communities.
First of all, thanks for the needless insult. You have a closed mind too, buddy!
Secondly, what does it mean for a game to die? I think thatâs a meaningless thing to say. If you can play it, you can enjoy it.
Thirdly, what happened to the original game is in the past. It cannot be changed, and I actually have no problem with it. I didnât âoriginallyâ want the game to never receive updates, we have that ânewâ game today, BFA, believe it or not. You can go play it. You donât like it? Iâm sorry. THIS release of World of Warcraft is different. Its not SUPPOSED to change, and a sure fire way to âkillâ it, to use your own words, is to mess around with it. People will FOR SURE leave for private servers if they mess around with the game.
Fourthly⌠youâre ridiculous. Your argument is ridiculous. Your response is ridiculous. Games arenât everlasting, theyâre experiences. You enjoy them while you have them. When its over, its over. There is nothing wrong with having an untouched original WoW that you can come back to at any time. If YOU donât like this version of WoW, Iâm sorry, youâre out of luck.
They might release TBC and WotLK realms some day, and I hope for those too. You might enjoy playing on one of those. Or⌠you might be asking for TBC+ or some crazy thing. I donât know, but there is no convincing or pleasing you people.
Another crap spewer. I donât care what they add as long as it matches the vanilla style and doesnât harm the content that is already in the game. Your exact same argument could be used on LITERALLY anything on earth. Classic+ is a dream of many because retail is complete garbage. Unless they do major changes next expansion then retail will die and classic will be all we have left. Wow can be better and it never will be if everyone wants the exact same crap all over again. Blizzard is pandering to a group of grumpy old morons who have no idea what makes classic good to begin with and they never will. They will abandon classic with everyone else to go to new private vanilla servers because they want a fresh start.
DUHHHHHH HAVING TWO DIFFERENT GAMES IS IMPOSSIBLE AN MAKE NO SENSE.
and how did retail get to be garbage. by listening to input of players.
this is why i donât like the idea of OSRS stuff.
before you know it, transmog, LFD, LFR, quest helper built in, aoe looting, etc would all be voted in.
I feel exactly the same. My major hope is that they learn from BFA and classic and move to make something WAY better. So many people have quit retail and a major redesign will bring them back in and wanting to level up new characters. A level squish, a world re-design to get past all the out of date cata quests. Fixing up the world so lore important characters arenât copy pasted all over the place. Ugh.
ROFL yeah okâŚOSRS is piss poor example. Just because it worked for ONE game doesnât mean itâs going to work here. In addition, many of those changes that were voted on and TURNED DOWN by the community got put in by the devs anyway, so thatâs not gonna fly. I donât trust Blizzard to make GOOD content anymore, since their track record with retail clearly sucks balls
Jokes aside, the development team have given the subscribers what theyâve asked for. Retail is more in tune with your ideas/wants etc. Iâve seen a far more enjoyable interaction with players in classic because youâre not given everything on a silver platter like retail, and it facilitates more of a community environment.
Something you donât see anymore on retail, I know quite a few players from 2004-2008 that came back especially for that experience and atmosphere
Then wow will die and youâll have to play something else. Doing nothing isnât how to run a mmorpg. Also OSRS is a great example because they proved you can restart and do better. The devs arenât completely stupid and understand what made retail worse over the years. They also have us to tell them why we hate these things. The only thing stopping classic+ is people like you.
According to YOU wow will die. NO. There are PLENTY of people who will play Classic endlessly and be happy. The only people who will get bored and leave are the retail folks who blaze through all the content super fast because theyâve been conditioned by retail to do so. Everyone else will be perfectly happy taking their time
Youâre completely wrong if you think retail fits me. The game is easy. The lore has gotten stupid and lazy. Leveling is spamming dungeons with heirloom gear and first timers get a free level 110 character so they can immediately get heirloom gear as well. None of that is fun.
Classic isnât fun because of all the flaws and lack of updates and balance. Itâs fun because itâs rewarding. Exploring feels rewarding and so does crafting and gathering materials. Every tiny thing you do in classic feels good because it makes your character BETTER! That isnât retail. I donât want retail. I want them to start over and for them not to make the exact same mistakes over and over again.
If they said there were updates coming, would it be more fun right now? Youâre projecting and deciding how you feel right now because of some imagined future.
Dude. All the people who wanted classic are rolling warriors, rogues and shamen so they can be brokenly over powered in end game. They are no lifeing it and rushing to end game quickly as possible. Their goal isnât to enjoy classic but to hit end game and make the most broken and janky pvp character they possibly can. Vanilla isnât all nostalgia but itâs going to be nostalgia that makes it get stale and will make people quit. We need changes.
If youâre not enjoying it then perhaps the game no longer suits what you want from it and just because itâs not tuned to what you want from it, it doesnât make it bad either. Nothing lasts forever. If you can convince the devs to start again with another timeline then more power to you.
Otherwise lighten up and enjoy it for what it is, or leave it.
LOL ok so now itâs not about flaws and lack of updates, but class balance as well huh? You canât seem to make up your mind about what it is that you like/dislike about Classic. All that aside, how does people rolling classes that according to you are brokenly OP in PVP at 60, have ANY affect on YOUR gameplay? Were you planning on taking part in PVP as well? Or is it because you rolled on a PVP server? I donât really see the problem here
) and transmog. No heirlooms, dungeon finder, CRZ, anything that promotes a rushing âgo, go, goâ mentality or destroys communities.