Take the Lead in Follower Dungeons

You’re completely disregarding the fact that Delves are coming, and the gear from those will scale up to normal raid levels. How is that different from scaling follower dungeons up to heroic dungeon or M0 levels?

It’s not. In fact, it’s lower, so I ask again: why would it bother you so much if follower dungeons are expanded to heroic or M0 dungeons?

Does someone else having more fun mean you have less fun?

This seems like it’s just you trying to gatekeep other folks who don’t enjoy the group content style of gameplay, but still love WoW.

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Here comes the epic followers upgrade pack in the shop!

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like learning mythic dungeon mechanics? your logic is flawed fundamentally. also m0 is non-content

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Let’s cut to the chase. What the end goal of the gear and dungeon war? Just mail the maxed out mythic gear once hitting level cap. I mean that’s what everyone wants right?

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I got money, I don’t have time. I pay for what I like. I will not pay to skip or pay or continue to pay for unfin things in the hopes they leader lead to fun things. Too time poor for that.

I don’t think it has anything to do with either. I think it has entirely to do with what Blizzard wants to do.

We’re just here to give our opinions.

It doesn’t bother me. It’s just not how story modes work and I don’t think anyone should be gearing end game content through a solo story mode.

It defeats the purpose of group end game content.

But I think having story mode expanded to raids with lesser rewards is a good idea. Let people get that story, as well.

Nothing is forced. And you do have player choice.

So someone else saying something that Kiper didn’t is now Kiper being contradictory?

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I guess you have some failed logic. Either it is for learning or it isn’t.

AI content can take this game to edge of difficulty.

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End game content would still exist mostly as it is because even with say heroic and mythic 0 included with as you call it story mode, anything past that including mythic anything else, raiding in all difficulties, world stuff, battlegrounds, etc. would still be done as it is.

Also again people who do whatever content whether with other players or AI players shouldn’t be punished with lesser rewards because they are still doing the content so saying that really isn’t the way to go.

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Because M+ is an entirely different place then a normal/heroic/M0.

Okay… When did I say they didn’t lol.

Nothing different, AI can scale to whatever level of difficulty you want.

How is Blizzard saying it’s for learning failed logic?

Straight from the article:

Whether you want to experience the dungeon for the first time as a solo player or you want to have a friend or two join you to learn the mechanics and boss fights, you can queue to join this new type of dungeon feature right within the Group Finder (I) tool.

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I never said it would disappear. I simply said that I don’t believe people should be using a story mode to gear up solo through end game group content.

No one is being punished. A story mode raid wouldn’t even really have mechanics or anything. It would be to solo for story. Because there are people who would rather not have to watch YouTube.

I’ve enjoyed story modes in Old Republic. I still run them for the rewards they do give, mostly cosmetics, but still nice to learn stories and get something fun from it, while I finish quests.

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I was responding to a person and not the blizzard article. They said you can’t learn at differently levels of difficulty which is a logic error.

Reading helps as well.

:dracthyr_shrug:

So then this is personal opinion, not agreed upon by everyone.

They would be if they were in higher version of content then gimped because of doing it with AI instead of other players which is exactly what you are asking for if this did happen.

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I’m going to be honest. I think even the NPC’s will give me grief. I’m not looking forward to being removed from a group by my very own AI.

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No they didn’t. Rigatoni said follower dungeons are for learning.

You decided to turn it into something that isn’t there. As usual.

Yes, they said you can’t learn at M0. Which is perfect for learning.

The real learning doesn’t even happen until the higher keys happen anyway.

No, you did as usual.

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Did someone ever say otherwise? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Is that somehow a shock? Not everyone agrees and no one said everyone had to.

What’s with all of the reading into stuff around here? People flipping out at me because they didn’t understand why I said to play other games, people claiming I’m giving my opinion as fact, people flagging my post because they don’t agree…

This whole thing is out of hand and I’m not going to deal with such angry, defensive people who can’t just say, “I don’t agree.”

I’m out.

Maybe you shouldn’t be trying to gatekeep people and you wouldn’t have that issue, normally we get along but in this case you are wrong, sorry but you are.

You want to punish people for not wanting to play how you play, you want them to get lesser rewards if they do have the option of AI, it’s just really not cool all around.

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