Every patch from seasonal servers has bled into ERA.
During SOM, the SOM ranking changes were on ERA for almost an entire year before being changed. During SOD, countless bugs have been ported over, and wholesale changes to the game have been implemented. Era now has SoD ranking changes, but without the recent changes to honor marks leaving it with an AV ranking meta that was never meant to exist on classic.
I can tell the Devs are (a) burned out, and (b) unwilling or unable to fix Era bugs. But please, do the work necessary to take Era OFF of the seasonal clients. Put it back on the 1.13 client, remove the SOD features, and never touch it again.
Having these two different games on the same client creates the perverse incentive for developers to look the other way when something they want to do to SoD negatively affects Era, because they’re just trying to push the current SoD update to patch and they think that it’s an acceptable solution to “just fix Era bugs later”.
The point is that there should never need to be Era bugs to begin with.
This client sharing has been a colossal disaster and it’s obvious to anyone who plays the game.
No characters that were created in an entirely different game mode should ever be eligible to transfer to Era.
It made no sense when it happened from SoM and it makes no sense for it to happen from SoD.
The AH/gold economy is still having reverberating negative effects from SoM to this day.
People brought over loads of items and gold that were acquired at higher drop rates than is possible to organically earn in Era. It’s nothing but damaging to Era’s ecosystem.
You are delusional if you think devs care about the tiny community of classic players, which generates negative profits.
The seasonals must have a dumpster to dump their players chars, so they don’t feel loss for playing a seasonal. Why do they make a different dumpster when they already have one?
Era is intended to be a preservation of vanilla version of the game “as it was” originally.
Transferring in characters from a completely different game mode that leveled at different rates, with different abilities, and seasonal aspects (runes, etc.,) completely violates the integrity of what Classic Era is stated to be. It just makes no sense for them to be in the same pool of players that earned all of their items/titles at the vanilla/1x rate.
Make a “post-seasonal” realm for all I care, or delete them at the end of the season, that wouldn’t matter because they were all temporary game modes anyway. But as Era is intended to remain unchanged, it’s absolutely nothing but damaging for completely different seasonal game modes to funnel into it.
Era does have a thriving/active community of levelers and raiders, pretty much through all the ups and downs of TBC>WOTLK>SOM>HC>SOD… Era has always had a core dedicated community that wants nothing more than to play the vanilla version of the game they love without being harassed by other game modes.
Lol, that’s what you want, not their intention.
Blizzard is a company. Wow is their business. They operate on profit basis, not on history or morals or w/e some individuals desire. They have to pay taxes, infrastructure, salaries, etc.
If your community can maintain your subs number while willingly pay $50/month. They will gladly open a separate server as you wish.
Why do I need to prove ? I don’t want to go all the length just to prove something obvious enough. Typically, your community provides like 2000 unique subs (not being shared with other wow modes) at best or $30,000 per month. One SWE salary is around 10k per month. So considering salaries for devs, HR, management, infrastructures, taxes, stockholders, etc. You think you guys pay enough to ask for privileges ?
Because you made the claim as a fact. You said era “is negative profits” - how do you know this if you don’t have the data?
Where are you getting your data for how many actual subs are coming from era? Are you able to prove this?
So?
That would require you presenting me with some hard data beyond the guesswork you are throwing into the wind, wouldnt it?
What are YOU playing? SOD? Do you think SOD is a flagship product providing an insane amount of profits? If so, where is the data?
You said they dont care about era though they have gone out of their way to fix things with era like removing might of stormwind for example. If they didn’t care there would still be literal SOD runes in era, wouldnt there?
It doesn’t require others to hack your bank account to know you are poor or rich. They can guess from your living standards.
I don’t need to show you the correct data to prove what I said, what is I see from activities in whiteman and ironforge.pro should be enough to estimate.
And devs not giving a crap about era community just further proves my points.
So you are just admitting that you don’t know, you are just taking a wild guess.
Have you seen Blizzards profit data?
Yes you do. If I tell you the sky is red, but you go outside and see it’s blue, that would mean my claim is wrong, correct? I didn’t prove what I said.
So there’s like 20k raid logs on whitemane. What about the people who don’t raid?
Lets even go further here. How many people are subbed to hardcore? How do you think you will find that data? Raidlogs?
It shouldn’t be that expensive to maintain a static version of the game for a small community. Assuming SWE means software engineer, why would you need a software engineer if you aren’t updating the game? Unless you just mean for the battle.net client.
I agree. I don’t think that the SoD toons will come to Era, but it does suck to see parts of Era changed every time it gets patched.
I’m not sure if gating things from not going to Era is less work/money than just keeping an earlier client and running them separately, although maybe it is because of security issues.
By the way, that guy you are talking to comes here just to hate on Era. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a single useful post from him. He also follows whatever is popular like a sheep, which is ok by itself, because lots of people do that. However lots of people don’t hang around in the places they used to go to hate on whatever they used to do, so you know there’s something going on to drive him to come here and do that. Maybe he’s secretly jealous of people who can think for themselves and who don’t care about popularity contests.