T6 Attunes are going to DECIMATE any hope of returning or new players

WoW Classic Cataclysm Classic Discussion
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Yep figured. Another Pagle PvE chiming in.

I understand that servers are PvE now… But when you intentionally start on PvP server it’s different.

You can cope all you want but the data is out there.

After 3 or 4 weeks number of 10/10 guilds per 1k players was staggeringly higher on faerlina, sulfuras, herod, benediction than it was on mankrik, Westfall, Pagle.

It’s not even debatable just look it up. Or just look at your own guild. 16 hydross kills and 2 vash kills with both being post nerf. My point exactly. If you wanna down bosses and clear raids before month 4 of a patch, play a PvP server.

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T6 attuned are not that hard. Since the nerf every pug group is capable of downing KT and Vashj = Boom, Hyjal attunement done. BT attunement is slightly harder as it requires you to do a one group quest and one normal dungeon before stepping foot into a heavily nerfed TK and SSC.

Plus you don’t even need TK/SSC attunements anymore either

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Reasoning like yours killed off attunements for raids in subsequent expansions. It is not my fault that they stop playing and that they cannot enter the new raids. They should go through the previous content, if not for equipment, out of respect.

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You didn’t play in TBC I take it? My guild did a few re-clears to get people T6 attuned. While we didn’t like it, we needed to do it to deepen our roster a bit, classic is no different.

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who said guilds wont be doing T5 content still? We still want our mount, lots still want the trinkets, its the same reason Gruul’s is still ran, its the trinkets

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We’d do the same. I always felt that helped build social ties in Guilds back then. We had a night for getting new Recruits attuned and most of our Guild enjoyed it since it was farm content.

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It also contributed heavily to guild hopping and guild poaching.

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I never felt it was an issue for well run Guilds. My philosophy on that in TBC was this…

  1. If your Raid team was progressing and someone wanted to leave your Guild to go to a more progressed Guild then good riddance. You’re better off without them. Unless…

  2. If your Guild was stuck with progression it was almost always a leadership issue. A guild perpetually in Kara had Kara level leadership and so on. In that case I couldn’t blame the players leaving.

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It could play out differently in TBC Classic just because people are pugging raids a lot more.

But at least on my server it created a pretty big problem back in the day because if your guild didn’t have enough attuned it was really tempting for a few of them to bail for a guild that was in T6. Which just created a perpetual cycle of guilds stuck in T5.

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Amen - why should people returning to the game expect - feel entitled - to jump straight into the final tier of the game?

Sometimes it’s good to wait and work for something. Have something to aspire to and work toward.

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Guild will be clearing that content especially if they have recruits who are serious about playing. It takes one night to get people going and there will be attune runs. If you play on a small server you’ll have a harder time but that is a completely different issue and needs to be addressed. Play the game instead of asking to bypass it.

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Ah you ae the edging master.

Maybe some people just enjoy playing the game?

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Cool play it then - why would people that enjoy playing the game want to skip most of it? You’re not entitled to anything - nothing. If you don’t want to work or play for it then don’t. Move on. Play something else - something you maybe like.

The attunements are part of the game experience, a big part.

Do you only read the last chapter of a book?

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Oh lordy no, I walked uphill through the snow both ways.

Did you?

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Nah - I played the game and did the quests, it’s not rocket science.

I just don’t buy the argument that people need to be able to skip 90% of the game to “play the game”.

Or that people coming into the game fresh need to be able to start at the end of the game. Rubbish.

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So did I :slight_smile:

Lack of dual spec did nothing to improve the game.

When did you start playing WoW?

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people like this complaining over free stuff ? most likely

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sry man not reading that wall of text that i know is trash,

t5 content is nerfed to the ground, people are actualy selling Cleaned up instances of arcatraz so you dont even need to run arcatraz to find udalo.

and guilds that want to recruit new players/rerolls will definitely take the 30 minutes it takes to get either leo or morogrim and karathress, a’lar is a 4 minute fight and has some great loot . now if you still needed to do the t5 attunement that would be problematic , but t6 attune is a joke and if players dont want to invest the 2-3 hours at most to get attuned you most likely dont want them in your progression run t6. hell we were 8/10 when nerf hit we did 10/10 in 1 night with 3 wipes… 1 caused by a bug lol

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these bosses are already nerfed to the ground. you don’t need to be attuned to TK or SSC anymore to get BT attunement. If you can’t handle these raids at this point quite frankly you can’t handle BT. Lets hope BT is challenging.

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Killing Vashj and Kael at this point takes less than one hour. This is the big thing that’s gonna destroy the game? Lmao dude if you can’t do post nerf t5 content, how do you expect to do t6?