T6 Attunes are going to DECIMATE any hope of returning or new players

So many ignorant people in this thread.

TBC has lost a lot of players. Attunments are one of the things preventing new players from joining. YOU may not have a problem personally with attunements, but people who feel like they’re too far behind won’t jump in and play.

A lack of incoming new players is big problem right now for TBC. WoW classic got lucky with the covid shutdown surge. TBC on the other hand is having a very tough time replenishing the player base.

Attunments are one of many reasons as to why that’s the case. It does fall in line with some changes that blizzard should have targeted. Instead the only real change they made was too leather working drums, and making casuals not want to play arena at all.

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Malicious or not don’t expect others to carry you. Show a little respect to the others in your guild and attempt to have at least a minimal amount of organization in your life.

Are you that one person in the group project who never shows up until the presentation then expects full marks?

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What’s mind boggling is that this was already tried in TBC originally, it was proven to be a bad idea, which is why sunwell had no attune and attunes were never done to anywhere near this degree again.

Yet people still try to defend it, well i guess there are plenty of flat earthers too…

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No, the problem is that Blizzard doesn’t manage server populations in any way.

TBC population is healthy it’s just spread across a ton of different servers while Blizzard waits to collect as much possible Xfer money before doing anything about it.

Attunements are not as big as a problem you’re making it out to be and you’re ignoring the real problem which is poor population management.

Welcome to World of Warcraft where being a raider in the higher tiers meant something. It wasn’t available and open to everyone.

The prestige in being a person in Full T6 while others weren’t was the time investment put into the game and being consistent in the game.

Not everyone should be allowed to play the endgame if they didn’t put in the time and effort to make it there. You earn that right to play with those who have put in all the time to get there.

This is why retail became garbage. Everyone was spoon fed everything and were freely allowed to do everything without the time investment that others had put into the game.

It means something to be in full T6 and beyond. A casual who put in no time shouldn’t be given free loot.

I’ve already unsubbed. That’s just my take on how the game was and why you looked up to raiders who were playing this game a lot and getting all the best items. Because some average person would never be able to commit to the time investment.

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I’m not defending attunements, I’m defending people that don’t want to bring lazy no-effort players.

There are weeks left to get attunements done and they’re so much easier than the TK attunement chain so there really isn’t an excuse.

I’d be okay if they remove attunements to be honest, I still wouldn’t bring a player that skipped t5 content to my raid.

edit: and my raid isn’t even that good.

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I would rather there not be a system which makes that a problem in the first place.

If some one had to miss time from WoW for awhile I don’t care.

For t5 raids I feel ya .

Tier 6? Come on. Takes 2 hours and no heroics.

Easy

No, a lack of gear would be the barrier. If you’re coming in fresh with no gear to just be carried in t6 till your caught up then that’s not helpful for any guild. If you can’t take the time now to get some gear to go into t6 and get attuned no guild would want you anyways.

Don’t waste people’s time. If you don’t want to put in an ounce of effort a different game is probably better for you.

People might have stopped playing at any level of gearing from fresh 70 to 8/10 T5 so claiming that someone not attuned is automatically in bad gear is pretty silly.

I wouldn’t be surprised if TBC has already reached its floor, resulting in a skyscraper effect where most remaining guilds are full-roster and stable, and everything outside of them may as well be level 1s.

While that does mean reentry is difficult, it also means TBC will continue to generate profit and support its own continuation plus that of the Classic series. That means, of course, the expansion that purposefully inverted TBC’s design.

Players are people, and people are smarter than WoW-lifers give them credit for. If they disappear from the game they’re also back enjoying RL…many, biding their time.

Keep TBC as it is, with its flaws. ATVI and WoW will be just fine, and in the end there’ll be a very recent, very data-rich report on just how successful TBC is as a modern game.

Why should anyone complain about PvP?

Why would you ask such a question? like bruh pvp is in a bad state for TBC

Not really. It’s guaranteed gear.

Is BT or Hyjal the harder raid?

BT is harder besides Archimonde.

Bro all servers are PvE servers now, what are you even trying to claim?

You think you’re good because you play on a different PvE server than the guy you quoted?

Lol.

tk and ssc are a joke now. once people see how nerfed the content is it won’t be that hard getting into content. with that being said thou I really hope ZA doesn’t take forever to come out, that’s a great zone especially for side grade equipment and it’s amazing for alts. Not to mention the gear looks cool AF

This thread would be accurate if it were 2007 lol. BC was the guild poaching expansion for this reason among others.

It certainly isn’t accurate now though.

With how easy T5 content is now and no gates to Vashj/KT, guilds will keep downing those 2 weekly like they still do with Gruul/Mag. If anything Gruul/Mag will be ignored more going forward.