To anyone. These threads are really starting to take over.
Well people make posts about similar topics all the time, but this thread was made several days ago. Weird to come into an old thread and complain about newer threads also existing.
A key thing is also to not respond to threads you don’t like because you bump them to the top.
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There’s really no point to making new threads on the exact same topic… by the same poster. Especially when you can just add it to the old thread.
It’s just using different words to talk about the same thing… which is exhausting.
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Wow I’ve never thought of it that way.
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The two threads that were linked were made after this one. Bump them with complains about it instead I guess. You can also just not respond to these threads and bump them, which is the point. The people complaining about it probably have like 50+ posts in those other threads anyway, while not engaging in different topics to that degree, it’s what they want to talk about.
Yeah. Unfortunately people who make them don’t care. Such is life.
The Dimensional Ship has been repaired since Cata according to the “Prophet’s Lesson” short story.
This was confirmed to be the case in Exploring Azeroth: Kalimdor where this was reconfirmed as canon.
They were planning on using it to return to Outland and rebuild their civilization but opted to stay on Azeroth instead to better serve their allies.
Tbf, last time we’ve gotten any indication of the Draenei’s presence on Kalimdor was Cata where there were a couple of Draenei NPCs beginning to spread out into Night Elven lands (Palanaar in Astranaar and Forest Song being largely inhabited by Draenei and Night Elves)
Exploring Azeroth: Kalimdor didn’t really mention the Draenei’s presence on the mainland at all, and we didn’t receive any follow-up on Forest Song or other Draenei-inhabited mainland areas.
But I wouldn’t say that their presence on the mainland is entirely non-existent, but admittingly we simply don’t know at this point.
The War of Thorns would’ve definitely changed their presence on mainland Kalimdor, though. What the extent of that is we simply don’t know.
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If that makes it worse for you, all the better.
I would tell the Alliance to just take the L … except the Forsaken took the Lordaeron L, too.
Ah, I didn’t know they just fixed it again in Exploring Kalimdor because it seems to have been broken, and it lost it’s power source when the legion attacked and killed O’ros, then instead of taking the Exodar they take the Vindicaar and say “Every spare moment, every resource, has gone toward the birth of a new vessel. Our instrument of retribution.”. It’s good that EK brought it back to Velen’s story from Cata, but it seems in legion they forgot it was already repaired.
I think there is like one draenei npc in forest song, and that is the flight master. I don’t think Exploring Kalimdor mentions any new Draenei presence, which should have been something that was expanded on in Cata, but I think all they really did was update Auhula from apprentice to the hippogryph master in cata. Which was a shame, because I thought Cata would be the time to expand on any Draenei presence on azeroth outside of the exodar, but they don’t set up camps/settlements everywhere like their counterpart the blood elves.
The Draenei didn’t help the night elves during WoT because they were so depleted, they did take in refugees from Teldrassil. They haven’t really given us an indication Draenei have expanded outward since BC. I don’t think Exploring Kalimdor updates any new draenei presence, they just mostly put a lot of zone back to cata era boundaries except for darkshore which is mostly uninhabited, which doesn’t have any kind of dreanei presence outside of an npc or two.
I would love to have any kind of draenei story that doesn’t have to do with another planet, but they are for the most part relegated to a small story when it involves draenor/argus. It’s unfortunate that in WoD the only real draenei from our timeline was Maarad and he died pretty early on, then we never get to see the WoD draenei again except through a horde allied race quest.
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Nice strawman
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I want you to think very, very carefully about what you just said.
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It’s pretty heavily implied it’s going in that big bay just west of that island. If you look off the eastern shore of the island in the Dream, that inaccessible stretch of land is pretty obviously Ohn’aran plains in its primordial state
I am pretty sure the Exodar may be superficially repaired, but it is unable to actually fly or anything as it no longer has a Naaru pilot, and also all the parts vital for flight were scavenged to create the Vindicaar. It is more of a spaceship shaped city now.
Yeah, the state of Exodar has always been pretty inconsistent, but it seems like they’ve reaffirmed what was said in the Cata short story which was assumed non-canon after Chronicles since it briefly mentions Med’an.
There are 8 Draenei NPCs in Forest Song, there’s also Draenei huts/buildings there too.
Compared to the 4 Nelf NPCs there.
It’s majority Draenei if we’re going based off of the number of NPCs.
They increased their presence in the Swamp of Sorrows and placed a few Draenei NPCs about.
Think this is mostly a side effect from early WoW’s lore that the uncorrupt Draenei were a people on the brink of extinction. Even the Twilight Cult NPCs had every race amongst them aside from Draenei, replaced with Korkul Draenei instead. Something they’ve mostly forgotten about and thrown away during Legion.
…Yet reaffirmed again in Elegy, wherein now their numbers were ‘drastically reduced’ post-war on Argus.
I’m also just convinced that Blizzard has never had a clear idea for what they wanted to do with Draenei, hence their entirely inconsistent goals/lore throughout the expansions.
So they’re content with just forgetting about it/leaving their status vague.
Blizzard isn’t good when it comes to introducing new characters.
The only three major Draenei characters were Nobundo, Akama, and Velen post-TBC, with Maraad being taken from the comics and brought into the main game during WoD.
Maraad dies unceremoniously in WoD (honestly not much of a loss, considering his character wasn’t all too complex to begin with), Nobundo and Akama have largely been forgotten about (along with Draenei shamanism as a whole), and Velen is hardly an interesting character by any stretch of the imagination.
Though picking up a Draenei character from the Alternate Timeline I think would’ve been narratively unappealing, I’m fine with them being relegated to their own home timeline.
I also just find the WoD Draenei uninteresting, but that’s entirely based on personal opinion.
Page 51 of Elegy:
The draenei were hardly in a position to assist the beleaguered night elves, though some brave souls had traveled to do so.
They did provide some military aid during the War of Thorns.
As I said, we simply don’t know the Draenei’s presence on mainland Kalimdor at this point.
Exploring Azeroth: Kalimdor left many things vague and unexplored whilst also taking place several years ago in-lore from the present.
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Was the vindicaar not a light forged vessel??
The Draenei built the Vindicaar, and the Lightforged sort of… took it?
You may be thinking of the Xenedar which is the AotL ship that was crashed on Argus.
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The highborn refused to stop using magic especially after both the Sundering that nearly destroyed the world and them causing a devastating magical storm that wrought havoc on Kalimdor. Their exile was their own fault for not stopping their use of magic!
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I will say one thing (since people are bumping all three threads and there seems to be no hope of localizing the discussion in one of them):
People (mostly on Night Elf avatars) have been hand-wringing over the past couple of years about how Blizzard’s plans for that seed were certain to be terrible. And I kept saying, “Wait until we see what those plans are before you complain about them.”
Well, I will stand by that. Now that we know those plans, I do think NE fans have a right to critique them. If people want to say Amirdrassil is a dud, have at it.
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It was dumb that magic was interpreted as the issue when it was Azshara’s ego and obsession with Sargeras. And some Nelves now practice magic. 
Magic is basically what led the legion to them though. That’s why it was prohibited afterward