Okay, but why are you here in this specific lore forum and not the general forum with other ppl who don’t care about lore?
This is a lore forum.
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So…why exactly are you wasting your time discussing something that’s not a concern or something you don’t care about?
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Its a public forum. You do know what is right or do I need explain that anyone is free to disagree with things being said and voice even their disagreement with what Blizzard does. By it being public that means that anyone can reply. It’s not a lore lovers only fanclub, there would have to be different permissions for that.
Permissions are things that allow members be able to view or post things. And members are well us! The denizens of the forum.
What you want is an echo chamber not a discussion forum. What a discussion is two parties having a conversation that may or may not have a dissenting or disagreeable opinion.
Anything else that you don’t understand? I guess it’s too difficult to google things like what is a discussion, or what is a public forum. Have a wonderful holiday.
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That’s a lot of nonsense for a simple question about why you’re here when you admitted you hate the lore and don’t get paid to care about it. And you can’t answer. Just keep giving answers that have nothing to do with why YOU keep wasting your own time
But that’s normal for this forum
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Kalimdor isn’t lost. The Night Elves are still around in Darkshore, Felwood, Moonglade, Hyjal, Winterspring, Half of Ashenvale, Half of Stonetalon, Feralas, and Desolace.
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Sources please 
There are Night Elves in Desolace and Stonetalon. It’s just these zones haven’t been updated yet. I know Hyjal, Darkshore, and Ashenvale has story wise.
Please cite your source
No, you’re right.
Every single Night Elf all decided to leave Kalimdor to live on Amirdrassil.
Not a single one stayed on Kalimdor, there was a mass exodus.
Any Nelf presence on Kalimdor is entirely gone, they’ve all left.
In fact, all the Nelves entirely dislike/don’t care about Kalimdor anymore or any of their other Druid groves, settlements, villages, and so on.
This of course, isn’t a massive exaggeration or anything based on the presence of several Nelves from all over the world that came to help Amirdrassil from getting burnt down or anything.
No, every single Nelf. Hell, every single Whisp, Keeper of the Grove, and Dryad left too.
Kalimdor is all for the Orcs and Hordies alike, they alone live on Kalimdor now.
Nobody else, not a single soul.
I’ll accept this entirely rational conclusion.
I mean, as we all well know, Nelves only live within villages, towns, and other agrarian settings.
I mean, Nelves living as nomads or foragers? Y’know like, living within nature or something?
Unheard of, entirely out of the question honestly.
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All here in the Wiki.
“With practically every inch of it under control of ogres”
Anyway, this is all a moot point because Northern Kalimdor is the home of the Night Elves. Again, Tyrande CLEARLY draws the line at Ashenvale in Warcraft 3.
Side question, do you think the Night Elves should just stay the same forever?
The most up to date resource we have would be the exploring Kalimdor book, and it more or less just spits out the status of Kalimdor verbatim to how it was when Cataclysm ended.
Darkshore is largely depopulated yes, but it was also kind of a blight stricken wreck and will take time to rehabilitate. The Kaldorei retook and fortified Astranaar. The Horde has been pushed back beyond the Falfarren River and the Sentinels mount constant assaults on Splintertree Post. Stardust Spire is solidly in Kaldorei hands—According to Horde reports, the Kaldorei sentinels from the post destroyed every siege weapon the Horde brought down from the Stonetalon Mountains during the fourth war, leaving the bones of the machines and the bodies of the engineers at the doorstep of the spire as a warning.
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No, because in Warcraft 3 and other times they are shown of being capable of change while still maintaining their core identity.
“They are mongrels and nothing more! They are responsible for Cenarius’ death! I will be damned before I stand with them” —>
“You realize that we will age as these mortals do. Our powers over nature will wane in time.”
“If pride gives us pause, my love, perhaps we have lived enough already.”
“We are its protectors, and through it we were granted immortality and power over nature. Now at least it is time we gave that power back.”
—> “Your plan is a bold one, girl. Perhaps I have misjudged you outlanders. May Elune shine upon you!”
After WC3 they worked their way out of a policy of almost total isolationism.
Their views on the arcane changed as they interacted with others.
Even Teldrassil’s burning could have brought about meaningful change -and- Amirdrassil could have been in Kalimdor. I stated in the thread I started (before it got nuked by Blizzard because people couldn’t stop trolling) that even if Blizzard refuses to put Amirdrassil in Kalimdor, portraying it as a major outpost as they dedicate themselves to help healing the entire world (and themselves), would be a step in a much better direction than what is currently being written.
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How is that not what they’re doing with the current story, exactly?
Because everything about the dialogue and what’s shown in-game has huge numbers of Night Elves choosing to make it their capital H Home (and capital)
That doesn’t sound like an outpost to me. That sounds like they are moving the literal center of civilization and main base of operations to a locale exactly on the complete opposite side of the world from their ancestral lands.
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Who determines what is “core identity” and what is just part of the identity generally?
You’re fine with giving up their immortality, total isolationism, views of arcane. What about these isn’t core?
I honestly do think this is the intention, but they are currently doing a poor job properly depicting this. That is 100% on them to do better. They should of framed it better as a home for the refugees of Teldrassil who want a fresh start in new lands. An outpost nearer the Eastern Kingdoms that ensures that Kaldorei culture is never again at risk of extinction due to the Horde.
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