Anduin would be a lot more fun if he was just a Himbo.
Hot, kind hearted, naïve and utterly, hopelessly stupid.
I mean… This kind of how he is, but its not intentional. It’s just the people who write him are stupid.
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So true and I’m getting really tired of it.
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I assumed that the divisions would be different, but that wouldn’t explain a lot of sylvanas’ action prior to the burning as in throughout the MMO. She was definitely on the more evil side, but would you say she was pure evil missing any goodness before? I would say BfA Sylvanas is a far eviler version of herself, even in shadowlands with her conversations with Anduin in those cutscenes she showed some understanding and regret.
“Sylvanas was just her evil self the whole time!” is just more trying to explain away her action as something out of her control, when she was an in control character before and after the burning.
Riches I’ve never known.
He’s literally king of Stormwind and hereditary high commander of the alliance.
There’s no man on Azeroth in a worse position to say this unless Moira’s baby started talking tomorrow
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There is more to life than money.
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He is, again, a feudal monarch who was born and lived with a platinum spoon in his mouth.
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You’re misinterpreting that line, he’s talking about life growing up how he never knew his mother and how his father was gone for a long time only to die later. He’s talking about how she got to enjoy her life and have those fond memories he doesn’t really have. It’s not about being rich or well off, it’s about the memories of being with people you care about.
Look I don’t want to defend anduin or golden, but this is clear.
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I mean it’s still fundamentally the issue that it’s Golden and Anduin. She could have picked anyone who wasn’t the single most privileged being on the planet to convey this and she picked this guy.
There’s literally no need for her to write this specific passage.
But hey I guess that explains why life in Westfall still sucks, he thinks kids who have both parents are the truly privileged ones
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Honestly without broader context of the novel that’s fine as prose goes. Golden is at worst an adequate writer of multimedia genre fiction. I can’t really judge the book from that and frankly, neither can you.
In the context of the game however, it is extremely funny to me they’re having this conversation about trauma because flying goth Swedish chicks snapped Anduin up like seaguls swooping down for a sandwich.
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We can only hope it’ll be enough for you to finally quit the game and post crying here.
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The point would be to demonstrate how selfish Sylvanas is, she only cares about her pain, she doesn’t care about the pain of the people she butchered, yet she wants people to feel bad for her. She is an awful twisted person. I guess we could go:
Meanwhile the soul of a night elf child Sylvanas sent to the maw to be tortured and then obliterated
“…”
Do you see the problem? Sylvanas’ victims can’t really speak up for themselves because they are mostly dead, yet she still has the audacity to talk about her pain when she has inflicted infinitely more on so many people.
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Okay, cool, see you’re doing the point better than Golden is.
Because the first sentence Golden wrote is about how the single most powerful ruler on Azeroth, appointed there by the grace of light and luck of birth, had it harder than her.
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Also, can I just say ouch to Bolvar? Sylvanas had it better because she had a real family while Bolvar (who says he considers Anduin a son) didn’t count apparently.
Press F for adopted families I guess.
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To be fair, it is in character for Sylvanas to dismiss Teldrassil compared to her own suffering, despite the Night Elves of Teldrassil going through much worse. She is selfish, so Sylvanas saying a disgustingly selfish thing like that is in character.
The problem is the writers siding with her and treating that flagrant egotism as justified.
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The actual problem in this excerpt is Anduin making this about himself in his response
Golden keeps forgetting that Anduin is little lord Fauntleroy all grown up and apparently with all the unearned arrogance of his father
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True, you’d think Anduin would’ve brought up Teldrassil sooner. I’m glad he brought it up, though I don’t like how it’s an afterthought rather than the leading thrust of the argument.
Honestly, I really wish WoW did more to explore Anduin’s relationship with Onyxia. She is literally the closest thing he had to a Mother… And then was killed and had her head stung up like a trophy.
That sounds like it would be a backstory for a pretty interesting, or at least cool character, right?
And yet…
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Doesn’t Sylvanas just come from a line of ranger generals? (not to mention being the defacto leader of the horde until she flew away) She was privileged by luck of birth as well, but is being born into being a ruler at 10 something Anduin wanted? Or is he saying he just wanted more time with his family to have those happy memories sylvanas has of hers? I don’t think he even takes advantage of being a king.
It was good he brought it up at least when Sylvanas tried to start comparing pains.
Sylvanas in her head: “NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN’T TALK ABOUT THINGS I’VE DONE!”
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“He didn’t want to be born with diamond studded diapers”
Like even if the Windrunners are minor nobility in Quel’thalas he’s still king of the second largest pre-scourge human kingdom (afaik they weren’t part of the 7 families on the convocation).
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tbh, I rather be poor than the responsibility of a Kingdom on my shoulders as a teenager.
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