I’m speaking from experience when I say that people can actually think like the OP, incredulous as it might seem. I actually lost someone who I thought was a good friend a while back because of it. They said that if Sylvanas somehow manifested into reality and murdered my whole family I would make excuses for her and defend her.
“Is he the bomb this time,” bugged me. It seems a well received line… but I felt like the words were crammed together oddly.
I can almost vibe with the groove Jaina was laying down (I agree with her point) … but something about the words used just feels so simplistic that it’s incongruous. I blame the writers, not the Art or Voice folks.
That moment almost feels like watching a Godzilla movie dubbed in English. There is just something off. The rest of the cinematic is alright enough.
I guess such an emotional moment is hard to get 100% right. Just something about that moment seemed off to me.
If the weird thought policing thing hadn’t been added to Sylvanas I’d probably still like her. I loved her as a character before BFA and I loved Garrosh as a villain. I would and have argued for the justification for war in Ashenvale and Darkshore in-universe when out of universe I would never consider it. Because I can tell the difference.
The vibes some people give here, though, is off-putting. They get really really into defending, as a broad concept, genocide and horrific war crimes. Not solely in the logic of the game, just genocide and war crimes in general.
I know I’ll be torn apart for this, but why does everyone keep bringing up genocide? I mean, how many Night Elves were in that tree? Does burning one tree really equate to genocide?
And, seriously, didn’t the Alliance kind of make it a military target by stockpiling Azerite there? Shouldn’t they have been storing that at a military installation or away from civilian populations at least? Isn’t it a bit unethical to use civilians as a shield for a military asset?.. I’m just sayin’…
In a A Good War Sylvanas muses that her actions would cause the Kaldorei to cease as a society and a people and in Elegy Anduin specifically labels it Genocide.
Stop trying to argue that it wasn’t
And Sylvanas didnt attack it due Azerite that was supposedly on it, she lit it up to “cause a wound that wouldnt heal” (which she utterly failed at I might add)
Unleashing such death inflicts wounds that don’t heal. There were villages and towns inside the Tree that did not even get the partial evacuation that Darassus did. And on top of that the massacres in Darkshore and Ashenvale are wounds that don’t heal for generations, and we’re talking elven generations.
When she refers to “wounds that won’t heal” shes specifically referencing a situation where the Alliance falls apart due to in fighting. That was supposed to be the whole point of the War of Thorns and where “a wound that won’t heal comes from”
This is hilarious because it paints Sylvanas as so far removed from actual living thinking beings, so inept at actual strategy she thinks her original plan would have worked. A notion we are told explicitly by Genn is flat out false.
So yes, while literally the wounds inflicted by the burning will take time to heal, the Alliance is stronger and more united than ever which is literally the opposite of what Sylvanas intended.
Sylvannas knowledge of living beings and especially Genn is pretty much frozen from the point of her death in the Third War. Because the Genn Greymane of that period was the kind of isolationist cold hearted bastard that did leave people out to die outside his Wall.
Ok, I can see this whole genocide thing is a little too touchy for you and I didn’t even mention Sylvanas that you keep bringing up. But just taking a step back, wasn’t it a tiny bit unethical of the Alliance to stockpile Azerite underneath a civilian population… just a smidgen?
Except that they didn’t. Only the port of Ruthaleen Village was used, there is absolutely no evidence that anything was kept in the tree itself and the Horde had control of the harbor at that point. Sylvannas by her own words didn’t torch the Tree to remove Azerite that she never claimed was there.
Wow. I withdraw my post. I can see this is way too touchy a subject matter for you to consider. I guess some people do have a problem with separating reality from fiction.
It may be irrelevant to what you want to talk about (genocide), but it’s relevant to what I have been posting. I’m not going to argue genocide with you. I can see it’s way too touchy for you, but the Alliance was storing Azerite at the tree, which was one of the reasons behind the rationale for the War of the Thorns.