If all accusations are presumed true, then more malicious accusations will be made, and there will be no recourse. Anyone could ruin anyone else for even the most minor slight.
If the accuser has to provide proof of their accusations, then some cases where they can’t make a solid argument will be thrown out, but overall most times something happened there will be evidence that that something happened so the case will be pursued and they will get justice.
I just want to let you know that by saying this you are saying to all sexual assault victims that if they don’t have enough evidence then they should just act like nothing happened to them.
Everyone is entitled to due process under the law.
Don’t blame the victim, don’t ostracize the accused. Judge the convicted based on the evidence that proves the case. I used to live in a world where this was the case.
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I just want to let you know that by saying this you are saying to all sexual assault victims that if they don’t have enough evidence then they should just act like nothing happened to them.
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That is not at all what I am saying. I am saying that the accused’s life should not be ruined without proof. Our justice system is not perfect, so sometimes the guilty are set free and the innocent are punished. So victims should come out yes, but the accused should face zero consequences without proof. People have a right to defend themselves.
Agreed but I think the point some people are making here is demonstrated pretty well.
Accusation? Independent action taken, what is implied by that? You would think a company that bungled that HK situation so badly wouldn’t be as concerned with image but here we are.
There gonna be threads on the forum if they restore that NPC?
While we can all say that public opinion doesn’t matter… it kinda does.
Edit: It certainly doesn’t matter to me but I don’t regularly scream my grievances into an empty oil drum which is a pretty good summation of the sound of the public or mob if you will.
I don’t think you understand how cause and effect work. If something happened, there will be evidence of that happening.
The only way for an event to not leave any evidence would be for that thing to have not effected anything, in which only works in quantum physics and fictional stories.
I would not even call them victims without proof. Take accusers seriously, listen to them and investigate their claims. Believe accusers without question? Absolutely not.
No, they should still try to prosecute. Evidence can turn up in a court even if you don’t go in with it. You might get other women to come forward - then the accusation becomes a bit more credible.
But you should not believe every accusation without evidence. The more false accusations that crop up, the less credible future accusations are. And that will hurt cases far more than a lack of evidence will.
Exactly! Bandwagon clout chasers is what I call them! I do believe some of them were true for sure, but not all stories are 100%, specially Angry Joe! And a fav youtuber who’s popularity sunk after a proven false allegation years ago, TobyGames, still to this day has haters who think he did it despite her text being proven false.
As for the topic, the court of public opinions aka twitter aka toxic cesspool, have the “guilty before innocent, and its your job to prove yourself innocent” judgements.