Swifty's NPC Removed

I am really sorry to hear that. I agree with your viewpoint that yes it indeed happens.

Except you can go to social media and the case can still be genuine.

Going to social media with your experience with sexual assault does not mean you were never assaulted. For some victims a long drawn out legal battle is the exact opposite of what they want. Sometimes just opening up and talking about the ordeal is enough to give them some peace.

It’s not for us to decide how a victim handles their experience.

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^^^^ This,especially since many become too intimidated or afraid to report and speak out against their assailants,especially if the vile bastards turn out to be somebody famous. Many are afraid of losing their livelihoods and being harrassed and labeled as being “lying harlots” [or unmanly pansies if the victim is a dude] for trying to ruin their favorite celebrity/athlete’s lives.

Even with there being evidence [many cases of high school jocks and rich kids walking free despite being proven guilty of violating girls at parties] those brave enough to report their misfortune end up becoming the pariah and are told they most likely did something to deserve it [victim blaming tactics which is NEVER okay]

Honestly wouldn’t blame Blizzard for taking down the NPC straight away,dunno about anyone else but avoiding bad PR is most likely for the best IMO [especially if it’s proven true that Swifty is a predatory pervert. If not,it can always be put back up later on] “Trust and verify” is there for a reason where you trust the victim’s aired grievance and not spew vitriol at them BUT you do go out of your way to verify if the accused is in fact the perpetrator of a crime.

Vitriol spewed at the accuser is what causes people to claim up about bad things that happen to them and while some cases should have been handled better during the me too movement,some good did some out of it as there were also some legitimate cases and very gross happenings exposed giving those wronged by predatory behavior much needed closure and justice in turn,giving people the courage to speak up.

Nobody wakes up one day and goes “Huh,this person is famous,I’m gonna ruin their career by accusing them of unspeakable acts.”

I could have seen that 20 or even just 10 years ago, but every little thing has to be taken seriously these days. I actually can’t imagine authorities NOT taking such accusations seriously. Hell, even an HR department has to take every little thing so seriously and give seminars on how you shouldn’t grab people. In this woke world, I guarantee you they took it seriously.

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true. I am just against the mob mentality of the social media.

This is 100% false. You can file a report with zero evidence. That is why they have detectives to you know actually find the evidence to your claims. Not saying your situation didn’t happen, but you could have filed a report.

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They aren’t going to get touched in this scenario.

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That’s because it has become common for women to lie about it. It’s an irl case of the boy who cried wolf, you can thank the meeetooo movement for that. People will only put up with someone lying for so long and after that it won’t be believed.

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That’s exactly what I’m getting at. They removed it as a response to the accusation… and its effect on how he as a public figure is perceived in association with the brand.

To me the next logical thought is that that’s a condemnation irrespective of any actual wrong doing being proven.

At the point an accusation generates meaningful consequence for the accused outside the court of public opinion (an entirely different conversation) questions of validity arise.

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The problem is that the accussation shouldn’t be brought to the public eye unless.

  1. Suffecient evidence has been provided, and/or charges filed.

  2. The accused brings the accusation to light themselves.

When these accussations are made public too early, chances are the accuser wether or not they are guilty, may as well BE guilty. Because from that point on they aren’t just “Swifty” they’re “Swifty, that guy who may or may not have assaulted somebody.”

Regardless of the verdict the moment accusations go viral, the accused’s life is already ruined.

TL:DR - Let the authorities handle it before pointing fingers.

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I don’t agree with that.

As I’ve mentioned before in this thread, no one can judge how and when a victim tells there story.

He’d have lost it for any other comparable tarnishing of his reputation. Reputation is the only reason he had it in the first place.

Why ignore everything else I said, yes they could get sued, by Swifty for defamation of character if he can prove he lost wages and viewers, etc.

Go look up tort law.

You can file a report, then they have to find the person that did it. I didn’t know the person, so I could not even verify an identity. Then you have to be able to prove it. Get a lawyer, pay a lawyer, etc. All against people that likely won’t believe you anyway.

Find a person in a sea of people that touched you randomly and try to have that brought to court.

Eh, there’s a difference between crying wolf and feeling emboldened. Most cases in my opinion are simply a matter of being emboldened by the actions of others. But yes, among all of that there will always be a few who want the attention and/or money. That’s just how life with the human race is sometimes. If a situation can be exploited then by god someone will try.

So apparently there is a lot of history with the Josh guy being a scumlord:

https://kotaku.com/when-your-favorite-streamer-turns-out-to-be-a-creep-or-1832734851

The article is mostly about Thomas Cheung and how he was caught in a sting operation, but if you look up Josh you can see his association with the story.

Gotta say, I’m surprised that Method kept him on board this long with the stuff I’m seeing.

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insert person of interest here did something terrible to me, i dont have any proof but he totally did it guys! Dont forget to follow/upvote me too”

This kind of bs is what ruins peoples lives. not just for personalities but for the average person too.
If what he did is proven true, then punish him to the full extent coming to him.
But c’mon, claiming on social media before perusing anything legal is a giant red flag to begin with.

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Well there is no way around that. The court of public opinion has always existed in some for or another. And it’s only gotten stronger as social media becomes more prevalent. Businesses have no choice but protect themselves from potential backlash.

I seriously doubt this move was made carelessly or maliciously. I’m sure Swifty has alot of friends on staff at Blizzard. But business is business. And having an NPC in your game named after someone who was just accused of some pretty serious stuff is not good for business.

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If you get sexually assaulted, twitter / facebook isn’t the correct way to solve that problem. You go to the police…

I suggest you do some reading on the topic as well. A lot of women do suffers from sexually assault. That doesn’t make it correct for other women to take advantage of that situation for reasons…

All i said was that you shouldn’t judge someone until he’s been put to trial.

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The problem is the “authorities” sweep accusations aside quite frequently. A person shouldn’t have to post on twitter to be taken seriously about something like this, but in many cases that is the case.

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