The AV fix is easy. Randomize which faction gets which end at start. Swap aesthetics and bosses accordingly. If you have to have Horde in the south and Ally in north then swap the terrain and flip the map.
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They should do this for a week just so the Alliance will shut up about the map being the problem when they start in the Horde cave and still lose every game.
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As ridiculous as the request is (in the respect that it will never happen), I would welcome the experiment.
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Ridiculous AV change requests are the new forums Meta.
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#nochanges.
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The current state of AV is an unmitigated disaster. There has to be close to a 95% win rate for the horde at this point. And for those that are saying #nochanges, just by having one all realm queue is a massive change. It was never this bad in vanilla.
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Have alliance tried playing better?
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Honestly, AV changes will likely never happen.
However, with a PTR running now - an AV Test queue option would be pretty cool.
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From a purely data point of view I would love to see it. It will probably never happen in Classic…but maybe on the PTR for purely academic reasons.
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Sure. Bring back premades……
Honestly… it won’t matter. Today as alliance there was this rogue doing nothing but killing rams. Yes, he was killing RAMS. The things we are supposed to be escorting back to base. So not only was this guy not participating, he was actively harming our efforts.
I ask people in bg chat to mark the guy and like 10 people defend him saying “he’s just playing the game his way”.
How can you win like this? Swapping sides… will not matter.
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Its not a map problem, its the Alliance in general. Alliance in classic BG’s are definitely the most pathetic PVP I have ever seen in 30 years of gaming.
Strategy > than player skill, unfortunately Alliance don’t think strategically.
Would be better off letting Horde fight Horde in BG’s.
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No it’s very much a map problem. The map very much favors horde.
On a mirrored map like WSG allliance pugs have a 50/50 win rate.
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Or be better? We had the same map in vanilla.
Alliance won more games than.
Horde used the same tactic as now.
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No its not we had the same map in vanilla. Alliance won most games of av back than.
Alliance today are just bad at av.
Yeah no, the map has always favored horde. When horde actually play to win they can easily do so.
The claim that alliance are just bad at pvp holds no water as alliance do fine in WSG.
The problem is that the Alliance in AV do a cost-benefit analysis every time they’re on the back-foot. Is it worth spending over an hour trying to win? Or is it better to just /afk out and try again in 15 minutes. People are choosing to stop playing because its better for them personally to lose and try again than put in the long-grindy effort.
But then those same people who give up and lose wonder why they’re losing.
I agree, the map makes it so alliance has basically no reason to continute trying after losing SHGY.
And no alliance don’t wonder why they’re losing, we know exactly why.
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Its seems to me like the lack of trying would be the leading cause of losing.
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You should probably quote the entire post.
Which is much easier for horde to take than IBGY is for alliance.
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