I think, it wants to be a hybrid spec in a game with no place in PvE for hybrid DPS.
It also intended purpose is to kill marine animals not terrestrial ones.
SV’s harpoon functions closer to Javelin or how Dragoons use a lance to propel themselves to their targets.
The lanyard is, but I dont see why it couldnt work for whale sized airborne creatures, like dragons. And thats not to say a whale sized harpoon wouldnt do a lot of damage to a person, and keep said person in range.
It was also used on the space station to pulling in Satellites. The intended designed is to stop prey from floating away by keeping it tethered. SV harpoon functions to stick it to one spot and then drag yourself over, it still feels like a grapplehook than a Harpoon. SV more like Batman than a Captain Ahab.
The difference beyween WoW grappling hook and wow harpoon is that harpoon sticks in prey, while grappling hook sticks anywhere. I think it makes good sense.
Liquid using SV in WFR. The reaction here (or lack of one from certain people) should be entertaining.
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Why do you think that? Do you think something along the lines of: “See! MSV is strong and good and viable!”? Because if you do, you still didnt understand the argument as to why RSV should return. MSV is currently strong and has been strong on multiple occasions through out its years and it was still shunned by the player base.
So, idk what you think is gonna happen 
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Honestly, a 4th spec would be the best compromise, and I fully support it. Those who keep saying either play one of the other 2 specs just don’t get what was lost, and continue to perpetuate the idea that Blizz stated that it was too similar to MM when it was not. Stop believing everything Blizz says.
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I mean the fact that it’s even notable that an SV Hunter is used in a world first race should tell you something ¯\(ツ)/¯
When ranged Survival was included on notable world firsts such as Mimiron, Al’akir, Lei Shen, or Blackhand, no one was amazed and no one was gawking… because that was totally normal. SV at those times was a widely enjoyed and well-represented spec.
What is notable is how even with SV’s large performance advantage the overwhelming majority of Mythic boss kills right now have had MM and even BM Hunters instead of SV Hunters. Top Hunters have even expressed a reluctance to play SV. You think that ever happened with ranged Survival?
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I’m not necessarily a fan of creating a 4th spec simply as a way to play Survival Spec. Personally, I feel like a 4th spec slot would be best reserved for a tanking spec, but that’s another discussion.
However, I DO feel that the existing specs could be reworked. Personally, I feel like there’s so much about the current Survival Hunter spec that feels more “Beastmaster” than the current Beastmaster spec does.
I also think that each Hunter spec (aside from maybe Marksman) should be playable as either a melee or ranged spec, where abilities toggle based on the currently equipped weapon (Arcane Shot => Raptor Strike, Multi-Shot => Carve, etc).
This is a completely bad faith and biased argument. BM has always been the most played spec throughout all of WoW’s history due to its ease of use. Further, just because you seem to be under the impression that every hunter spec should always cater to people who’ve played it for a long time, doesn’t mean it’s correct. SV, while not as represented, has a popular niche that people enjoy playing. Not every class/spec needs to have equal representation. Again, that is simply a bad faith argument.
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yeah, that’s why Aspect of the Eagle should be passive, a temporary reach doesn’t really make sense.
Agreed, however, since Outlaw Rogues have Grappling Hook…
No, Heroic Leap is an AOE attack that can be used for travel as well as attacking. The replacement for Harpoon would be a targeted leap attack hence you attack the target, not the area.
wut?
/10char
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There are a number of people that are glad to have Melee Survival.
I think there is a greater number of people were/are saddened by the loss of Ranged Survival.
I feel the same. It wasn’t right then, it wouldn’t be right now.
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Thats because there isn’t one lol
You think a class with 3 DPS specs should get… another DPS spec?
We already have too many specs in the game as is, and Hunter is the last class to deserve a new one.
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Not in group-based PvE content. And certainly not high-end, which is what he was talking about in the quoted section that you posted.
Yes there is, in fact there are several. You just choose to dismiss them as nothing but nostalgia or opinions. They’ve been posted many times before, feel free to go back and read for yourself…
Yes. You still have failed to adequately argue for why it shouldn’t, beyond the fact that you think that it shouldn’t ofc. And no, balance is not a solid argument here, as have already been discussed why that is. It’s not as big of an issue as you make it out to be.
In your head, perhaps this is true. Again though, nothing objective here to use for the root of the argument, that we shouldn’t get that 4th spec.
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MSV seems pretty unpopular (against all other class/spec combos). Sure, they didn’t have to “cater” to the Hunter crowd when redesigning a Hunter spec., but this sort of raises the question: who were they trying to appeal to here? Perhaps they’re “catering” to the people who enjoy doing things that are unpopular. I drink salt water because no one else enjoys it… that sort of thing.
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Well this is embarrassing lol
You sure it isn’t the other way around?
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Well, idano about unpopular, not on purpose, but there were statements made that they(developers?) knew the spec would be a “niche” spec…
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