Survival vote?

Ghorak’s highest level of achievement is questing, which has been proven before. Nothing he says about the specs are of any relevance beyond feely’craft opinion.

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This is an ad hominem.

The only way any of Ghorak’s achievements would be relevant would be if someone were to make an appeal to Ghorak’s authority. Even then, you could just call it out as an appeal to authority.

Argue against the points made, not against the person.

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I and many others did, six years ago when this whining was actually relevant. Back to the shallows with you.

Did what? Please use complete sentences.

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You being unable to follow the question you asked to the answer I provided is a you problem and not a me problem. That said, I’ve quoted the relevant info so even a toddler can now follow it, so you should be good now.

You wanna say you played Mm hunter with explosive shot and black arrow , and soon tier bonuses where not relevant to SV hunter or where not OP like MM you didn’t play it anymore.

It’s ok to say “ I will ply ranged SV only if it’s meta and top tier dps”

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So, you’ve run out of arguments and now focus solely on personal attacks instead. Big surprise…

You’re still just as wrong as before though.

The fact that you say this means that you’re either a troll, or you don’t know the history of the spec. Neither in terms of design, nor performance.

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Didnt ask a question. I pointed out a logical fallacy and suggested you not make ad hominem arguments.

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Open WoLTK talent calculator please and just invest points till you get explosive shot and then change to marksman and choose Aimed shoot. I played my share on private WoLTK servers, don’t hype something you literally have smallest clue about it.

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First, I would recommend learning what ad hominem is and why it doesn’t apply here.

Second, because I doubt you’ll grasp the reason I’ll spell it out for you. There are no facts to be argued against. This entire thing boils down to feelings about a spec being removed. This isn’t a fact to be argued to or for, it’s feely’craft based solely on emotions.

Third, you can thank me for making you just a little brighter after today’s lesson.

Pointing out your experience in game equates to questing isn’t a personal attack. Not surprised you’d lie and act offended though, it’s your modus operandi.

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An ad hominem is when you attack a person instead of the argument.

Unless Ghorak is making statements which depend on his experience, attacking said experience is an ad hominem.

If I said that college is expensive, and you claimed I didnt complete college, thats an ad hominem. It has no bearing on the argument, you are just trying to discredit me.

The same with making statements about what you believe to be someone’s in game achievements. It has absolutely no relation to spec design. Popularity. Right to exist.

You are just trying to say Ghorak’s opinion is wrong because I think he hasnt achieved much. This is an Ad Hominem.

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Even though I dumbed it down to the level of a toddler you still don’t get it… there is no argument. Being upset about ranged being removed isn’t an argument to attack. Try reading slowly and you may get it.

Wow, really? Okay, first off, by no definition would that constitute as someone playing “MM with Explosive Shot and Black Arrow”. You literally just said that I should spend the bulk(51/71) of my available talent points in the SV category, only to then spend a few(11) of them in the MM category to get Aimed Shot as well. If anything, that would be “the RSV playstyle + Aimed Shot”.

And on that note, also do remember that there were no actual specs in WotLK(or prior). Core Specializations were introduced in Cataclysm. What we had before then was the base/core class mechanics, with different categories of talents that further built on said core. Before Cataclysm, it wasn’t possible to select any form of locked-in playstyles. The only restriction was how many talent points we had to spend in total.

And just for reference:

Yes, you did in fact say “you played Mm hunter with explosive shot and black arrow”. You didn’t say “(R)SV hunter with Aimed Shot”.

As you accused me of “literally have smallest clue about it”, considering the above, this is just sad.

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Fancy words indeed.

When did I lie btw?

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Ok….:clown_face::clown_face::clown_face: … it’s not crap it’s dog poop right. Two different things

TLDR; Delete Melee SV

:clap:t4:

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Personally I think you’re more likely to see a ranged Demon Hunter spec (dual wielding?) rather than a 4th Hunter dps spec, unless you want them to bring back RSV as a healer… :slight_smile:

This suggests it was broken AF.

Healing darts spec!!

lmaooo :rofl: :rofl: