Touche. Still feels terrible and I think it should be changed
It is terrible and not exactly but feels similar to when cloak of shadows had a 90% chance.
As a personal unlike darkness (which is kinda dumb too) itās garbage to just die thru it anyway
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Reworking or revisiting hunter defensives is a little different than saying make turtle an immunity to everything but dots
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What difference does it make? Give it the survival instincts treatment then like Murphy suggested.
Not like weāre gaming to go thru turtle like itās a micro game/skill check. Or the hunter is bad for turtling insta out of stun but dies anyway
We should start making other defensives that arenāt immunities act the same way then.
Dark pact out of a stun and chaos bolt goes thru? Too bad
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Only if the dot animation fully forms first tho
Because the only defensives in the game that work retroactively are immunities
Either hunter gets an immunity or it doesnāt
Every other defensive used after a projectile is launched does not mitigate any damage (except survival tactics)
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Yea yea you can dark pact during stuns Iām starving and waiting on food
This how every wall works? Does netherward not reflect mid air projectiles?
When they have the choice to press feign instead and get the exact outcome they claim to expect from pressing turtle, I feel confident calling them bad
Not if nether is pressed after the cast ends
Same with disperse, unending resolve, etc etc
Iāll have to pay closer attn because Iāve just never seen full damage into disperse like that
Nor has anyone complained about dying thru nigh immunities or defensives like Iāve seen hunter consistently
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It is very obvious with a slow moving projectile like chaos bolt
Hitting 170k into the little shadow cloud that thinks theyāre safe is satisfying
Iām weighing in anecdotally here but Iāve seen chaos bolt land for the kill on people with mature defensives up since wod, and sp usually lets it happen even more often than hunter ime.
I already canāt go hunters with 1 disengage. Pls no.
I learned the way walls work the hard way s3 of sl pre destro nerfs
Oops didnāt UR pre triple bolt infernal stun guess they all land for max dmg
Same, chaos bolt in itself causes a lot of wtf moments because the damage gets calculated a day before the animation lands. Iāve seen Sockems kill a rogue thatās cloaked mid death animation
But itās an extreme and turtle causes wtf moments more than other defensives as far as Iāve seen.
Granted I donāt think Hunter should have a full immunity. Being ranged physical they should have chinks in their defensives but there should be security in their penultimate defense imo
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I think blizzards intention is to feign into turtle but that could just be me malding at feign for 3 years straight
Itās the same way I think some rdruids need to learn to meld into tranq on certain occasions because thereās unavoidable dmg coming in otherwise
We arenāt going to save a 30sec cd all game or be able to align the CD and predict dmg so far in advance that we have feign before turtleā¦ what if someone pressed feign into stun/coil before they can press shell?
locks have coil, pact, port + soulburn freedom, and can use fear defensively. most classes can use their defensives WHILE stunned or have some sort of auto proc when they fall below X HP
This isnāt a skill issue, itās bad game design
Nah itās a bit of a skill and bias issue on your part
Ascend proc might be dumb but itās a team game and if you choose to trade something in once situation your team should help trade in another
Also someone can correct me if Iām wrong but roar sac is usable while stunned right? Itās just if the pet is ccād or not
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Then you failed to judge the right time to feign
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yes anti crit will not save me from bolt or other major offense cds, theres no comparison here. and my point is there are more things to use feign on that just X ability all game. ofc we have ppl that dont agree instantly going for the āskill issueā argument by the looks of it classes that are countered by hunters. Iām not here to discuss skill im here to discuss a flawed defensive
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