Survival rotation QA

WoW Classic Mists of Pandaria Classic Discussion
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So I have a question about explosive trap and black arrow.

I’ve been training on the dummy’s and my dps stays almost exactly the same when I’m using explosive trap compared to black arrow, yet i read over and over again that explosive trap is the way to go and should be more DPS.

I have it macroed in with raptor strike, I walk up, drop my trap, and continue doing all my other rotations, yet I don’t see this dps gain? At this point I’d rather just use black arrow just for the ease in fights so I don’t have to run up and drop explosive trap on the boss and run back, etc.

Thoughts? Is there something I’m doing wrong?

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Do you have the explosive trap glyph? I think there is also a talent that buffs it. I dont think its like suuuuuper higher dps just better when you can. I dont main hunter though so not certain

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Yeah I have both the glyph and talented into the tree

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Hmm idk, hopefully someone else has some bettwr insight on it

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Without any logs there’s not much people can do to help. What sort of DPS are you seeing with Explosive Trap v.s. Black Arrow?

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Black arrows just for single target fights, it doesnt hit that hard and the cd is longer than its duration. its only use is for lock and load procs, if u can hit more than one target and they arent moving around then always explosive trap for more procs and cleave

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Not sure why this thread was necroed, but Black Arrow damage doesn’t even compare to Glyphed Explosive trap damage.

A black arrow will do maybe ~6k damage or something with about ~6k more from its 6% damage increase over its duration. Meanwhile an explosive trap will do over ~20k damage to a single target over its duration.

Obviously, those numbers depends on your gear and the more gear you have the better Glyphed explosive trap gets because it scales more with crit than black arrow.

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Also: looking at DPS numbers on a target dummy is useless. In a real raid you are going to have a huge number of buffs and debuffs that affect how much damage both abilities do.

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Here is a video of the rank 2 surv hunter on patch. Watch his trap weaving.

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One thing odd about that video is when Lock n Load procs, he just spams all of his explosive shots yet a ton of guides have told me never to do that… I wonder why? They say you lose its DoT damage by spamming it all…

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Its a downranking trick

Explosive rank 4, rank 3, rank 4

The separate ranks wont cancle eachothers dots out.

The rank 3 explosive shot does a little less damage but it puts your standard CD explosive shot up faster so you get more explosive shots overall. Because you trigger the explosive shot CD faster.

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Holy lol. Of course no guides have this nice trick. I’ll be happy to see what my DPS does now.

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There is a cast sequence macro you can use that will only downrank to rank 3 explosive if you just used the same macro to use rank 4.

#showtooltip Explosive Shot
/castsequence reset=2,target Explosive Shot,Explosive Shot(Rank 3)

Idk if this is the best setup for this macro but it should work. If not look through the hunter discord and you should find one that works.

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You realize that the trap is AOE right?

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Why is that relevant?

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It’s in the wowhead guide

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LOL ok never mind. LOL

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Like someone said it was added to the Wowhead guide a few weeks ago. Make sure you always check up on your class guides at least once a month because some times new things are found (even for WotLK classic).

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