Ya you’re playing it wrong
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Is he though? I can understand your point if survival was still ranged.
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That’s because you also don’t understand how to play the spec. It’s not meant to be a face tank plate wearer, we do decent damage range and kite pretty well. When its time for a go we go in and do the damage.
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covlol is right. survival is supposed to kite, that’s why they have tools specifically for that.
Well, you’re not wrong.
No but look at rogues, monks, dhs, and shaman.
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Rogue, has so much more control.
Monk, does the same thing we do (usually) with the in and out play style.
DH, again same thing as us with the in and out play style.
Enhance, when they are not terrible have a lot more healing then we do to deal with inc damage.
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I feel like I wish I was maining hunter instead of rogue right now. They’re much more fun and I played one for 12 years afterall. Past 3 years I’ve been playing rogue mostly, and left hunter on the shelf. Mists of pandaria was a wild time for hunters to actually hunt lol. I wish this game allowed my life to waste time making an alt.
Survival CAN kite in order to profit SOME trades (not all of them). Which doens’t mean its a KITE BASED class.
Raptor/mongoose + autoattack are responsble for at least 30%+ SV hunter source of damage.
This argument “just kite” is just bull!#%!#.
Surv plays closer to a sub rogue style of melee rather than a warrior/DK. Surv needs to kite and control between goes, then land CC and do your “go” like sub rogue does with dance. Surv isn’t intended to stay in melee range trading damage like warrior and DK, that’s why warrior and DK are passively tanky and surv isn’t.
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Yes and no.
Against rogues, rangeds and even some melee classes, yes, SV is intented to sustain his damage in melee range.
Some bruisers like Ret, Dk, Warr i agree with you, the game becomes control between goes.
I feel you lack experience in the ways of MSV tbh. Its pretty clear you really don’t know what to do as a survival hunter.
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Thats only your opinion.
The same opinion which was wrong about hunters damage some weeks ago.
I said SV hunters mathematically needs more damage because they were inferior to other classes.
You insists i was wrong.
Then dillon came and confirmed i was right, then you just changed your mind.
You was wrong before when debated with me, do you really wanna repeat?
You was the one who was wrong about binding shot aswell. You didn’t even knew it was dispellable.
You was wrong about Intimidation into rogues aswell.
Theres so many… feels like i could do this all day.
Where was i wrong again? You say a %dmg increase is needed. I say give us the azerite traits back, which would also increase damage.
Edit - I was wrong about binding shot, a talent that isn’t selected as survival. Also I was not wrong about intim in the context that it behaved exactly as I said all of BFA.
I really hate bashing people but your lack of experience shows every time you post. You also post from a profile that doesn’t exist so that your claims of experience can’t be proven (suspect). I on the other hand am an open book, I also guarantee my experience as a survival hunter while I may have not played the spec as long as you, I started it last expac, is greater in number.
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Thats exclusively blizzards fault, however im glad it happened. It helps to avoid shallow “arguments” like “look rating, you dumb im smart, yu wrong, im right” also knowed as ad hominem which you are hardly trying by this implication.
“I was wrong about binding shot” you just answered your own question.
It does often lead to egotistical arguments, although I find the hidden profiles are more likely to start these arguments, but it also quantifies some things. Namely lack of knowledge, for example you keep trying to prioritize a damage buff over anything else as a fix for survival when clearly pet survivability is the #1 priority because if the pet just dies we can no longer use our abilities to do the damage that you want buffed.
Another example is you want a flat % damage buff while I want to return old traits back that would add damage and fluidity back to the spec.
Lastly, you in your lack of knowledge claim that the defensives are so terrible. Do you want to face tank enemies like a warrior or dk? Thats not what this spec is about. We are mobile and when our spec is on par, like in BFA, we do pretty decent poke damage from range in-between gos and go in during the trap window to kill or force cds and we have defensives that for the most part require us to be proactive about them.
Go ahead and continue on prioritizing the wrong things and claiming everyone else is wrong though while trying to back it up with mathematics and representation…
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No its not.
You are wrong BY FAR again.
Wanna bet ?
Pets got buffed yesterday. You wanna bet sv representation will remain almost the same proving the main issue WAS NOT pet?
Pets right now has 20% more survability, you wanna bet the significance of this change will change close to 0%?
I hope you understand 0% as close to NOTHING, at least… this kind of relevance you must understand.
Why do u argue to with someone who’s played hunter 2000 rating above u? Ur literally the biggest baby dilly has his work cut out for him if he does carry u
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Make Survival Great Again
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5500 rating Greatest hunter of all time: SV MAJOR problem IS pet surviability.
Me: no its not.
*Blizzard buffs pet survability into 20% *
SV representation remains exactly the same, 0% to 0.1% impact.
-0% impact change
-major problem
Pìck one you can’t have both.
Logic is not defined by acomplishments, but thats an story for another day.
I get what you’re saying but the change literally just happened under 24 hours ago
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