Survival needs to be adressed

PVP Arenas
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I tend to agree with this. Baseline WFB cdr would be pretty fooking GREAT.

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They should of gave us the traits baseline instead of giving crappier versions of them as legendairies that won’t be used. It would have kept this spec competitive.

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My experience with SV is the damage is severely behind MM, and MM damage isn’t crazy. It’s generally below Arms/WW/Moonkin/S-tier specs. Pet durability remains to be seen.

Play knock trap and use it to separate before trapping. Still can be hard though. WW’s are the real BM Hunters of SL.

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Allow survival to equip both a melee and ranged weapon so weapon swapping is non issue. I shouldn’t need to create all sorts of obscure macros or use 3rd party addons to help me weapon swap efficiently. It’s total laziness on Blizzard devs for overlooking this.

It’s a major reason for survivals low representation.

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I’m not wrong every class lost the azerite traits which is why I didn’t mention. But you’re right they made a difference.

SV never had burst and unfortunately now we are in a burst meta so it feels extra bad.

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I think its worth mentioning because they were and still seem to be pretty much required for the spec to function properly.

Mostly correct, double bomb with kyrian does chunk decently.

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You don’t have to, you’re not supposed to be using arcane/steady shot.

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This is so true it’s painful

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I made the serpent sting leggo because I missed playing it both in PvP and pve in bfa. It’s so undertuned it made me extra sadge.

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There’s no reason for weapon swapping, arcane and steady shot shouldn’t be used when playing survival

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The issue is survival is a fair and honest spec right now, and being fair and honest isnt viable.

The viable specs have some sort of overtuned BS or cheese gimmick. Survival has none of this.

Pet survivability is a issue and to say it isnt is being disingenuous or youre clueless. Survival damage is also on the lower side and could use a buff, primarily to ST spells like KC and RT

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I recognize pet is big issue, what i’m sayin its not on top 3 issues of sv hunters.

Here is the list of SV hunters problems

1- damage
2- survivability
3- stun, resource rotation, defensive spells attached to pet
4- pet survivability

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This 100%. SV should be pumping some big dps for being squishy with a decent skillcap, basically no self healing, and pitiful burst when compared to what others are capable of. I’m fine with all of the drawbacks but the damage needs to be there to balance it out.

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  1. Agreed.
  2. Disagree we are supposed to be squished and kite instead. If we had enough damage to make others actually go defensive there wouldn’t be an issue.
  3. I dont mind the stun being attached but I agree with the rest.
  4. Agreed, we shall see what this 20% does.
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Hunter in general needs to be addressed. As a whole, it was minimally represented for the entirety of last expansion with SV being the only playable spec. Marks is the only semi-playable spec right now and is nowhere near as good as anything that you could replace it with in any hunter comp. We have stuff like DH, DK, warrior with extremely simple (yet effective) toolkits and damage rotations and yet BM just can’t exist despite everything that used to make it unpalatable not existing any more. I think that the blizzard devs actually do have a bias against hunter in PvP. No entire class has been this bad for so long.

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survival just didnt have any thought put into it this expansion. Legendaries are terrible, the best one operates the way way our feign should function pvp talent wise. our burst feels under whelming, damage feels clunky without azerite traits. Our covenant abilites are a joke. No thought put into a class, which makes me wonder why take a great and loved spec and turn it melee instead of creating a fourth spec. Kinda just makes me wanna hang it up and call it quits for good.

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Hunters as a class have had terrible rep since WoD frozen ammo and saberon jungle which is the last time they felt like a top tier class.

Hunters perpetually teeter between passable and absolute gutter trash in terms of PvP competitiveness. its luckily propped up being one of the overall popular classes in the game, and BM will always have people playing it for some reason regardless if its the best or worst spec.

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Don’t use words like fallacy. It makes you sound like you’re from Oregon or one of those women in a cringe karen video. Your points are correct though.

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Look on the bright side, at least the one good cov ability (kyian) is actually serviceable. Some classes like warlock have 4 different flavors of garbage across the board (Soul rot is awful for damage, its just decent indirectly because its on the nature school.)

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This is not the design of Survival. Even with some ranged skills still its a melee oriented class.
A melee oriented class is not meant to “kite”, otherwise spec will lose damage (which is not high)