Survival is such a dead spec. Player count feels low

Funny how at a high level this describes BM as well.

To be clear, you’re arguing that there are rare situations where SV can use its high ranged capability to make up for not being able to stay in melee range and because of that melee players don’t want to play it because it’s not “zug zug” enough.

No, it’s not unpopular because of additional capabilities it has. It’s simple: Hunters don’t want to play melee and melee don’t want to play Hunters. The class is heavily based on ranged combat so the Venn diagram overlap of people who want to play a Hunter and people who want to play melee is narrow.

Pugging with SV Hunter for M+ sucks. People will expect you to be ranged and they’d rather have someone else as melee. However, I did have no problem joining a guild to be a melee dps.

It’s clear from the start that the devs have no idea what to do with this spec. Remember in Legion where you have to check for moknathal and mongoose bite charges for FotE phase while masterfully placing explosive and steel traps. All the while trying to combo your wildfire into either mb spam or kc spam. And I’m pretty sure we had another bs grenade there on the mix too and a spitting (low res) cobra on-CD skill.

SV is more or less streamlined now but it is still not fun when placed in group content. And not enough “fantasy theme” on class gameplay that makes me wanna stick to it like the other least popular specs when they’re weak (Brew, Feral, Demo, Outlaw).

That’s a weird claim to make. I want to play melee and I want to play Hunter. :stuck_out_tongue:

It’d be cool if BM got some melee options too.

I think until there’s actually some sort of penalty for rDPS fighting close range there’s going to be a lot of confusion for DPS players.

Mostly based on pet combat, though

people would rather cry about it being changed from range to melee than play survival and see its a fun spec. every time i play my hunter i start at mm or bm but i always end up at survival cause the other 2 specs get boring

a lot of players in this game are really stuck in the past and get super angry if you point it out

I’ve really only seen one person cry like that. We all know who. I’m playing survival and really enjoying it. Who cares what other people play? I’m actually kind of drawn to the non-meta personally. Who wants to be another meta clone?

You heard it! Bepples want BM to have a melee option.

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In fact you can fight in melee range as BM right now.

There are always exceptions to the rule. That’s why SV has a few players and not 0 players.

Mostly ranged combat.

This isn’t just a matter of people not trying it. I’d wager most people who play Hunter have tried Survival at some point. People just prefer to be ranged, which is reasonable and makes sense.

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But can you use your full rotation and while equipped with a melee weapon?

No, but why would you? A ranged weapon is fully capable in melee as well.

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Then your just a range fighter who not smart enough to get out of the way.

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I dunno. I play it and love it. If Blizzard ever changes it back or ruins it, i have my excuse to stop giving them money.

As opposed to nonsensically throwing away the single biggest advantage Hunters bring to the table, just for the lols I guess.

Ion came forward and said they were aware it would be dead even before it introduced. They created it for players who were just starting in Legion and for players who wanted something new.

It was not intended for a big a win only to get more attention for the expansion.

Oh yeah you’re still on about that nonsense where you think Legion melee SV was intended to be a big Legion selling point…

And whats the number one discussion on the forums each week? It melee Survival again.

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Wow all that talk and you still end up with such a low play rate that you get threads like this. Great marketing success.

But it keeps you coming back each week. So it done something.

So is the goal in your eyes to keep people playing or to keep people posting? Because you seem to be confused between the two.

In any case there are plenty of forum regulars who not only don’t post but don’t play anymore because of melee SV. Remember Guillotaur? Lazyguide?

Posting is free advertising. All the arguments just gets others curious what SV is about.

Even bad press can get your product noticed.

You have become a celebrity on the forums because of Melee SV.