All their Shocks and Lightning Bolt/CL have full range don’t they?
not even close, once again play it in pvp before saying something you are not aware of, sv playstyle is compelty diff in pvp compared to those two, any good arena player will tell you that, SV has a hit and run weave playstyle, that can use pillars as a advatange as well as any other range, and it can do massive dmg from ranged before going in for the kill or just killing it from range. it kites better then half the range in the game against melee. in pvp its the only true hybrid range melee spec
I didn’t know we were exclusively talking about PvP. OP was talking about M+ rating. I don’t think that applies to PvP
Yeah but their shocks are filler, and their bolts, while ranged, have to be made instant via maelstrom, which is generated… via melee range.
Survival on the other hand can swap from meleeing to ranged on a dime, with the mobility and kiting tools to facilitate that.
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You lose a lot of damage in PvE if you swap to range as there’s a negative modifier on your auto shots
she mentioned pvp, but still in pve her point is it doesnt appeal to people cus they do see it as some sort of mix, if u look at st damage your top dmg outside of mongoose bite comes from serpent sting, kill shot and the mastermarksmen dot and sharpnel, and in fight mechanics that have u move alot it does alot better then most melee cus of that while being as squishy as a range it wont appeal to most melee players.
I don’t see it as a mix in PvE. It’s as much of a mix as Unholy, Retribution, and Enhancement.
many many situations where it plays completly differnt then those specs especially in high mythics/raid, or world content and serious pvp, where its range capabalities is far superior then those specs that come in clutch way more then those specs from my experience playing all those specs.
completely diff then those spec, if you play SV in high mythic 16 17 18 19 plus, you have to use your lunge talent as an advantage that increase your melee abilities to a 8 yard range and there is quite bit of weaving in and out using that talent and butchery to reduce wildfire bombs CD and playing around wildfire bombs and KC and KC reset while going in and out with butchery because of how squishy u r cus u r still a hunter. please dont even compare it to the other specs. not even close. you can pop coordinated assault, and disengage out to kill adds far away with killshot procs that CA give u with ur other range abilities in add mechanics where you are low when need be with ur other range. These are the ‘hybrid’ playstyle that will never appeal to a melee player. if your a casual sure the spec might feel like any other melee specs, but if you are really pushing high end mythics or high end pvp rating, this is the hardest spec to master
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?? You do not disengage for no reason after you CA, that’s silly.
this does not make you a hybrid at all. rogue and feral have an identical talent to increase your range. are they hybrid range DPS? No, of course not, because that’s nonsense.
You don’t weave in and out of range as SV, you stay in your melee range 90% of the time just like every other mDPS.
yes there will be situations where you might have to, plenty, to kill adds where you are the only dps alive in mythics and it needs to go down, kiting exists in pve too a add is about to get to a boss that u need to kill or it will wipe the group, doesn’t happed all the time, there is so many situations this spec will do much better at range then those specs playstyle is completely different that will never appeal to the players who play those specs, and there is alot more situations where you do weave in and out because of how squishy you are, sure you are not constantly doing it but u r, you combine that playstyle, with its pvp playstyle, with its world content playstyle where you can kill most adds or take most adds health from range, people will look at it as a hybrid which will never appeal to those people who play those specs and is completly diff playstyle.
Posts like these make me wonder if people like you actually play the game or exist purely to post godawful takes on the forums.
Baiting for arguments by trying to be insulting. Won’t work here. Be better. You have 194 posts on the forums, seems like typing on here is all you do.
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Anecdotally, I know firsthand of a guild that is running every class capable of using the leggo axe. I trust they’re not the only guild doing that.
I figured the axe would provide Agi interchangeably. Nope.avi. Another surfin’, flippin’ bird to MSV and Monks too because why not. Fail, fail, fail. Fail is the word. F,f,f,f,f,f,fail,fail,fail.
But…who needs such when you have a bandolier of WFBs?
this entire thread is a bait for argument
It’s just an alt I post on 
play the game plenty on my main. Also idiots such as the guy I insulted aren’t capable of listening to the facts and have already made up their fantasy for how sv plays vs how it actually plays.
no reason to call anyone idiots, if the forum angers you that much, stay away from it.
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I’m not angry just calling a spade a spade
ret is more of a hybrid ranged/melee than sv lol
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No, ret is just straight-up ranged. It’s a midrange spec with a 20yd reach, almost the same as evoker. All it gets from melee range is auto-attack HP generation.